Tough day for EIU hoops hopes

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I'll admit I exaggerated a bit. Iowa's better than Georgia, Missouri, Ole Miss (I take that one back), Vandy, South Carolina, and Kansas State. They're probably on the same level as TCU, OU, WVU, Florida, etc.
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All I'll say is Ksu has two marquee wins and no bad losses. I don't know that iowa is on another level from them. There's a good argument to be made that ksu has a better resume than Iowa.

No game data point really screams iowa should be in the top 50. It's all a scheduling thing. They haven't beaten any top 75 team on the road. They've only beaten 1 tournament quality team all year and that was a home court outlier to beat #32 indiana.

And give it time, Rutgers still may end up being a really bad loss. They are pushing tier 3 status.

Their inflated offensive numbers and gaming the schedule is the only reason they aren't on the outside looking in.
 
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All I'll say is Ksu has two marquee wins and no bad losses. I don't know that iowa is on another level from them. There's a good argument to be made that ksu has a better resume than Iowa.

No game data point really screams iowa should be in the top 50. It's all a scheduling thing. They haven't beaten any top 75 team on the road. They've only beaten 1 tournament quality team all year and that was a home court outlier to beat #32 indiana.

And give it time, Rutgers still may end up being a really bad loss. They are pushing tier 3 status.

Their inflated offensive numbers and gaming the schedule is the only reason they aren't on the outside looking in.
KState has had a tough schedule for sure. I figured they'd be awful this year and they're "eh."
I am still of the opinion that Mark Turgeon will be their next HC.
 

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Rebraca is actually more athletic than I expected. He has a number of relatively athletic dunks with a big right hand. That's not his problem

The problem is he has the body of a stretch 4, but he isn't a 3 point shooter and he plays smaller than his 6'7 height with no additional wingspan and a modest frame who provides little to no physicality on the block, especially on defense and on the boards. He's a little better offensively in that regard, but that's not saying much because physically he just doesn't have the tools.
So a mid major guy on a B1G roster...got it.
 
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All I'll say is Ksu has two marquee wins and no bad losses. I don't know that iowa is on another level from them. There's a good argument to be made that ksu has a better resume than Iowa.

No game data point really screams iowa should be in the top 50. It's all a scheduling thing. They haven't beaten any top 75 team on the road. They've only beaten 1 tournament quality team all year and that was a home court outlier to beat #32 indiana.

And give it time, Rutgers still may end up being a really bad loss. They are pushing tier 3 status.

Their inflated offensive numbers and gaming the schedule is the only reason they aren't on the outside looking in.
100% correct. They are 0-4 in quad 1 games. Even their Virgina win is not quad 1, which is admittedly tough luck on their part and out of their control.

I'd go so far as to say tonight is a big swing game that puts them on the bubble at best if they win. If they lose, they are in serious danger of being firmly under the first 4 out mark with few opportunities to climb out of it on their schedule.
 
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Are you disagreeing with your fellow ISU fans who have been saying the whole time that Iowa isn't athletic? I like you as a poster so just trying to make sure I understand your position. Iowa has been a top offensive team for years under Fran but they've never struck me as particularly athletic.
Who are all of those? Iowa and Fran's problem isn't athleticism, it's defensive effort.
 
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Rebraca is actually more athletic than I expected. He has a number of relatively athletic dunks with a big right hand. That's not his problem

The problem is he has the body of a stretch 4, but he isn't a 3 point shooter and he plays smaller than his 6'7 height with no additional wingspan and a modest frame who provides little to no physicality on the block, especially on defense and on the boards. He's a little better offensively in that regard, but that's not saying much because physically he just doesn't have the tools.
He's playing the 5 spot too so it complicates his weakness or makes it more glaring. If he was a 4 as we agree strength would be less of an issue. I thought he was going to be a better shooter. Fran needs to upgrade the 5 spot next year via the portal
 
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He's playing the 5 spot too so it complicates his weakness or makes it more glaring. If he was a 4 as we agree strength would be less of an issue. I thought he was going to be a shooter. Fran needs to upgrade the 5 spot next year via the portal
Mulvey probably just needs to hit the weight room more. Not much of a difference between his size and Nunge's, who's been really solid at Xavier.
 

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Mulvey probably just needs to hit the weight room more. Not much of a difference between his size and Nunge's, who's been really solid at Xavier.
Nunge is very fluid. He was great with his length but he's like 24 and Mulvey is 18. I think Mulvey is years away from Nunge and I don't think ogundele is ever a factor. Portal is a must
 

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Nunge is very fluid. He was great with his length but he's like 24 and Mulvey is 18. I think Mulvey is years away from Nunge and I don't think ogundele is ever a factor. Portal is a must
I've never understood why Fran barely utilizes the portal. I know he hates it, but I think he could've had even better teams with a couple pieces added.
 
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@GoHawks You can disagree all you like but his arms weren't straight up... He's leaning into the defender and using his arm. It was a text book foul.

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That looks like Rutgers studied from the lessor known VHS tape: Fran McCaffery, How to make All Big 10. The Aaron White Chapter.
He clearly needs to lower his shoulder just a little more and then flail his arms on the follow through.
 

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Nunge is very fluid. He was great with his length but he's like 24 and Mulvey is 18. I think Mulvey is years away from Nunge and I don't think ogundele is ever a factor. Portal is a must
Will Mulvey be able to redshirt or has he played in more than 8 games this year?
 

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Nunge is very fluid. He was great with his length but he's like 24 and Mulvey is 18. I think Mulvey is years away from Nunge and I don't think ogundele is ever a factor. Portal is a must
Most coaches don't have the security Fran does to take on projects over portal guys.

Genuine question, has Fran ever had a true transfer impact player? I can't think of one.
 

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Yep. Robert Jones type of guys.
Lol no not like Bob. I do love him though for what he is to our team. The PG spot in particular, but I know that Bohannon and Connor were both at that position and Fran wasn't going to bring in a guy to take their minutes.
 

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I've never understood why Fran barely utilizes the portal. I know he hates it, but I think he could've had even better teams with a couple pieces added.
I think his theory has been i'll get my guys, develop them, play them and they'll stay because they'll be happy. His theory kind of blew up when 2 guys left him 1 of which I don't blame him for but that stuff happens with college kids. You have to be agressive today or you're going to fall behind
 

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