Tom Hill to retire
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When the 2004 "riots" happened I had a friend get pepper sprayed just after walking out of Paddys that didn't deserve it, and Dr. Hill walked him up to the fire station to try and help him get his eyes cleaned.
Seriously why the "good riddance"? He seemed like a good guy to me, and the other posters also appear to have that impression.
He was involved in the decision to close down VEISHA, right? Is that it?
This also reminded me of this good story about him. Olympic bronze medal, nice family story, etc.
http://ethosmagazine.org/2014/the-unseen-life-of-tom-hill/
He always seemed like a good guy and would always be out interacting with people at events. Really puzzled by some of the hatred for him on here, he didn't end VEISHEA the behavior of some students did. Also, interesting side not is that he was an olympic athlete. Never realized that until I was reading a story on how he got rid of his diabetes the other day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Hill_(athlete)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Hill_(athlete)
His niece was a good friend of mine at ISU. Great guy and great family. Dont understand where the hate is coming from?
Awesome guy, enjoyed my interactions with him, use to always hello to me on campus and knew my name but he hated veishea...
Hopefully this his means a reinvented version of veishea can come back in the future.
Hopefully this his means a reinvented version of veishea can come back in the future.
So it looks like 1 "good riddance" vs about 10 "good guy" comments.
2015, anything in particular, or just the Veishea cancellation issue?
2015, anything in particular, or just the Veishea cancellation issue?
Yeah... no.
While some small, small minority students were idiots, ISU never really explored preventative solutions and the 'committee' they had that should have been exploring that was set up to railroad the end of veishea from the start. Lessons were learned after 04 that were applied for the first few years (like different police responses, different things ISU could do to draw people onto campus, etc) , but they were forgotten\ignored after the first few years again. Had ISU explored ways they could have prevented this happening again and stuck to those solutions it could have gone on just fine. Its not like ISU is the only school that has had events that have run into issues with that... but ISU and ames police have a poor record of managing the week.
So yeah... as one of the leads for ending what was one of ISU's great traditions.... good riddance.
Thats your opinion, mine is that it isn't the purview of a reputable University to sponsor and manage a giant drunk fest with history of property damage, several deaths, and bad press. I would like to see a university-wide celebration return, but it needs to be done in a very careful and deliberate way to avoid turning into what VEISHEA became. Also, VEISHEA was going to be cancelled with or without Tom Hill being at ISU.
I think we'll probably see individual colleges do more stuff over the next couple years. Maybe in about a decade they'll bring back a full University celebration without the name VEISHEA. That's at least what I think would make the most sense.
I'm torn here, and it sucks that this thread has to turn into a debate on who killed VEISHEA for good. I think Tom did for sure, that's why I'm conflicted.
He was a really great guy while I was in school from 02-07. Very visible and nice to everyone. Great ambassador for the university, and I thread like this should have really been in his honor. Wish he didn't kill VEISHEA so it could have been that way.
He was a really great guy while I was in school from 02-07. Very visible and nice to everyone. Great ambassador for the university, and I thread like this should have really been in his honor. Wish he didn't kill VEISHEA so it could have been that way.
