Never been there, but if they smoke, as I assume they do from your post. Then they'll comply with the new law that gets passed or they'll get shutdown.how about Rubes Steakhouse???? time to shut it down????
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Never been there, but if they smoke, as I assume they do from your post. Then they'll comply with the new law that gets passed or they'll get shutdown.how about Rubes Steakhouse???? time to shut it down????
-keep.
It's not my job to explain what the law makers were thinking, ask them yourself. I don't agree with the golf course portion of it, for the record.
Never been there, but if they smoke, as I assume they do from your post. Then they'll comply with the new law that gets passed or they'll get shutdown.
Drama is part of the package.Could you answer the question without all of drama next time?
Since when does the law limit smoking in indoors? How about public parks, golf courses, etc? Those will be affected too.
It's not my job to explain what the law makers were thinking, ask them yourself. I don't agree with the golf course portion of it, for the record.
I'm not saying a smoking ban should extend to outdoor public places, but I will tell you that when my family helped in a city park cleanup in our neighborhood, the amount of cigarette butts vs. other garbage was astounding.
Why can't smokers put their butts in the appropriate place?
Why can't smokers put their butts in the appropriate place?
You and I have been a couple rounds on this, CW. And I think we have a good understanding. I'm happy to see it, you're not. But I think most people agree that this is a wussy attempt to curb smoking in general (not just for the second hand issue), but gov't is too scared to take on the issue head on - that if it's such a health issue, it should be banned like just about any other illegal drug.
I agree there. But there is already a law in place to curb that...it's just not enforced.
I don't know how this bill would affect that, I'm sure there are restaurants all over that have indoor grills, so I don't know.It's a grill your own steak place. Indoor grills.
DM, I just don't think we'll ever agree on the smoking ban. However, we do agree on banning cigarettes altogether. If they are so bad for the smoker AND for other people, ban them. That just makes sense. The government doesn't have the balls to do this (because of money) so they exploit smokers. Where does it end? Will there soon be a tax on video games because they have been proven to warp the minds of some children?
Is this like taking the ball and going home?
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I don't know how this bill would affect that, I'm sure there are restaurants all over that have indoor grills, so I don't know.
Let me ask this - how is the outdoor portion of this limited (legally).
You can't smoke in parks, outdoor pools, golf courses, etc.
So what's to keep you from smoking in your front yard? Another person's yard?
What's the legal boundary?
The law will ban smoking in public places. You can still smoke on private land...for now.
I just don't get that thinking. Why does it either have to be ban then completely or do nothing?now that I agree with... if it is SOOOOOOO bad ... ban them.
period.
otherwise, let the individual person AND business choose.
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I just don't get that thinking. Why does it either have to be ban then completely or do nothing?
I agree, they should be banned, I would support that completely. But in lieu of that, because I think we can both agree that won't happen in the near future, why not atleast make some much needed restrictions on their use?
I was saying that your argument talking about people grilling outdoors had no bearing on this discussion. Should indoor grilling be banned? I don't know, maybe. Does this law specifically address it? I don't know, probably not. Lines have to be drawn somewhere and it's going to be subjective, but that doesn't mean that it's bad.that was the counter to your outdoor grilling doesn't hold water. there is indoor grilling and smoke is bad (that has carcinogens), then why do we allow this to continue? What about the lolly line cooks health. they are people too.
sarcasm on purpose.
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