The Mess is Back in the Big 12

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  1. ISU0454

    ISU0454 Member

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  2. Colorado

    Colorado Well-Known Member

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    I gave my wife **** about him being on the staff at KSU. Wife wasn't amused.
     
  3. cycloneted

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    Oh man, they're going to have a lot of SPORTSCENTER plays now!
     
  4. Remo Gaggi

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    Be sure to give him a warm welcome on November 23.
     
  5. coolerifyoudid

    coolerifyoudid Well-Known Member

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    Messingham isn't scaring me, but I think Klieman is gonna be a good fit over there. It may take a few years, but his teams have been known for their physicality and discipline. I'm not sure if they will be able to attract top-end talent at the skill positions, but I think he'll get a lot of those undervalued guys and JUCOs that play their asses off for him.
     
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  6. jbindm

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    That's the catch, though. Are the Snyder loyalists going to give him that much rope? Because I think he's going to struggle some the first couple years. I agree that Klieman is a good coach and given enough time he'll build a winner, but for him to succeed at K State he might have been better off replacing the guy who replaced Snyder. Big shoes to fill and I just wonder how patient the fans will be.
     
  7. BWRhasnoAC

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    I think they are more grounded than you might believe. They saw what happened when The Vampire retired before.
     
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  8. Cyclad

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    Nice guy. Think he got a bad rap. I think he is probably a pretty good coach. You can only deal with the talent you have.
     
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  9. jbindm

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    Fair point. We'll see. I'll be curious to see if Bill Snyder maintains some visibility around the program. You'd think he would just step away and give the new guy some room to establish himself, but if Snyder pulls a John Thompson routine and just kind of hangs around the program he's going to cast a big shadow.
     
  10. CyTron

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    I just hope he dials up a tunnel screen on 4th and 4 against us like he did against Iowa in 2013. That was a sweet play call:eek:
     
  11. Bigman38

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    I really like where KSU is now
     
  12. BWRhasnoAC

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    Ballsy no doubt.
     
  13. Cyched

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    Helps bring back fond memories of bubble screens
     
  14. Rabbuk

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    Member when coach Rhodes made him an oc. I member.
     
  15. awd4cy

    awd4cy Well-Known Member

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    I still wonder how much of that was Rhoads. I remember a couple times we had big losses Rhoads thought we didn’t run enough bubble screens. I think everyone else was wondering why we ran so many.
     
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  16. Cyched

    Cyched Well-Known Member

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    #16 Cyched, Jul 17, 2019
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    Must have been the trusty chart.
     
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  17. CyCloned

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    Didn't like his play calling and I didn't like the way he threw his players under the bus when they couldn't make the ESPN highlight plays. Granted the talent was not great back then, but he also called a lot of plays that had no chance to succeed.
     
  18. SpokaneCY

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    A lot of "bad" coaches under CPR become pretty good coaches under, well GOOD coaches.
     
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  19. SpokaneCY

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    He HAS won a national championship as an OC I think? Maybe several? Amazing when you work for a good coach with good players...
     
  20. CyCrazy

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    No i blocked that **** out of my mind.
     

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