The gift that keeps on giving,....a $$$$$ Black Hole at eiu

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Already $122M over budget, what is $10M to $15M more?


Damn shouldn't there be some type of guarantee on those windows? That sounds like a contractor/ manufacturer problem. Though when you try to screw the contractor over they probably aren't in a big hurry to help you solve a dispute with a manufacturer.
 

Clonehomer

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Already $122M over budget, what is $10M to $15M more?


So, if it was determined to be a manufacturing issue why isn't the manufacturer paying for this? And maybe more importantly, why are the windows of a hospital 2.5% of the total cost of the hospital? Just seems like maybe you're too interested in making it look fancy rather than functional.

Or, the more likely situation, someday it's going to leak about the massive amounts of fraud associated with this project.
 

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Did they ever pay all the contractors they stiffed (not on the windows)? I know they had the court uphold the judgment but not sure if they forked over the money or just waved.
 
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Did anyone get fired for being over budget by $120 million on the initial build? Legit question, that’s an insane over-run.
Does that $120 million overrun include the $20+ million that they didn't pay to the mechanical contractor? :confused: o_O
 

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So, if it was determined to be a manufacturing issue why isn't the manufacturer paying for this? And maybe more importantly, why are the windows of a hospital 2.5% of the total cost of the hospital? Just seems like maybe you're too interested in making it look fancy rather than functional.

Or, the more likely situation, someday it's going to leak about the massive amounts of fraud associated with this project.
Yeah there’s something fishy about this. No mention of going after the manufacturer sure seems weird.
 
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Damn shouldn't there be some type of guarantee on those windows? That sounds like a contractor/ manufacturer problem. Though when you try to screw the contractor over they probably aren't in a big hurry to help you solve a dispute with a manufacturer.
I assume the sub-contractor goes after the material supplier in court. Years later something gets decided.

In the mean time, eiu has to cover the money shortages.

eiu project = cluster eff,.......an immutable law of physics!
 

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Thats interesting, you would think if those windows are only 4 years old they would be under warranty still or something. A lot of those commercial window manuf offer like 5/10 year warranty on their products. Gotta wonder what they did that could have voided that where it's not an option.
 

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So, if it was determined to be a manufacturing issue why isn't the manufacturer paying for this? And maybe more importantly, why are the windows of a hospital 2.5% of the total cost of the hospital? Just seems like maybe you're too interested in making it look fancy rather than functional.

Or, the more likely situation, someday it's going to leak about the massive amounts of fraud associated with this project.

As someone who has been there numerous times on multiple floors, your comment about style over function is spot on. The building is a beautiful building and very aesthetically pleasing. There is, however, a TON of wasted / inefficient use of space. In a lot of ways the building has a corporate office kind of feel to it (feels like a showpiece in a way) like you are trying to impress your customers. Architecturally it is neat but when you are dealing with a sick kid, it’s the last thing you care, or think about (how pretty the building is).
 
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Thats interesting, you would think if those windows are only 4 years old they would be under warranty still or something. A lot of those commercial window manuf offer like 5/10 year warranty on their products. Gotta wonder what they did that could have voided that where it's not an option.
Maybe they "waved" the warranty . . . .
 

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As someone who has been there numerous times on multiple floors, your comment about style over function is spot on. The building is a beautiful building and very aesthetically pleasing. There is, however, a TON of wasted / inefficient use of space. In a lot of ways the building has a corporate office kind of feel to it (feels like a showpiece in a way) like you are trying to impress your customers. Architecturally it is neat but when you are dealing with a sick kid, it’s the last thing you care, or think about (how pretty the building is).

Having personally spent fifteen weeks straight in a hospital with a sick kid and living out of a ronald McDonald house, you'd be surprised how much aesthetics has to do with mood and mindset