NFL: the Getting assaulted with your own helmet brawl

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  1. IASTATE07

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    Browns fan that's glaringly biased.
     
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  2. steveocy

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    During high school, I played junior hockey and still hold two league records: most time spent in the penalty box; and I was the only guy to ever take off his skate and try to stab somebody.
     
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  3. VeloClone

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    I'm not a fan of either team but here is my take.
    1) Six game suspension seems reasonable. If he had really connected on the helmet hit it could have been very, very bad. There is no excuse.
    2) There should be some sort of consequence for Rudolph ripping at his opponent's helmet just because he didn't like getting sacked that late in the game. It was a clean sack and he wasn't driven into the ground.
    3) Pouncy should see discipline as well. I understand that emotions are high and you may want to protect your teammate however you are protecting your teammate knowing you are prepared to suffer consequences. Besides, it is beyond protecting your teammate when the teammate is free from the melee and you are punching and kicking a guy who is on the bottom already tackled by another one of you teammates.
     
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  4. CTTB78

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    The helmet blow was bad, but it might not have been the worst hit of several bad ones last night. One helmet to helmet (and an ejection I believe) knocked the guy out and left him bleeding from one side of his head.
     
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    He got 3 games.
     
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  6. jcisuclones

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    Pouncy got suspended 3 games.
     
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    It's a late hit because Garrett continues to grab the QB and throw him to the ground. You can't do that. It's called roughing the passer. Why rough the passer when you're up 14 with a couple of seconds left? Nobody teaches defensive players to commit 15 yard penalties. At least I would hope nobody does.
     
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  8. Angie

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    Maybe it's because Rudolph was sort of a ***** in the post-game interview last night (which ESPN cut away from to cover Garrett), but it felt pretty clear that he was saying crap in addition to fumbling at Garrett's helmet to start this. Garrett was just better at it - and had less self-control Not a good combination to a game that was getting really chippy.
     
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  9. VeloClone

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    Thanks. I included it because someone posted that they had no problem with what he did so I thought I should comment. I hadn't heard that he got put in timeout. I think it is appropriate.
     
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    Save it. Hes an idiotic Browns fan.
     
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  12. cydsho

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    There was less than 15 seconds when the play started and it was a simple screen play to end the game. The lineman were not blocking 100% imo because the game was over. Garrett's shot was cheap even though if it wasn't textbook roughing the passer.
     
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  13. jcisuclones

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    Yeah I still don't have a problem with what he did regardless of my bias. It's his job to protect his quarterback, and if he has to throw punches and kick his head knowing knowing that he'll get suspended for it. For that, I tip my cap to him.
     
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    I am absolutely shocked that Baker gave great insight into it post game. I’m literally shocked.
     
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    The Pouncey’s are some of the last people on the planet I’d want to get into a fight with.
     
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  16. ISUCyclones2015

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    He's not throwing him to the ground! He's dragging him on top of him in a textbook (in 2019) QB tackle. Are we watching the same play?

    Yep my opinion doesn't matter because I'm a Browns fan. Yet no one is disputing anything besides saying "Not true" while I'm giving video evidence to the contrary. Also you have the same arguments I'm giving from different people one at a time. They don't get called idiotic.

    Why do I as a Browns fan have to preface anything about the situation? Obviously he should be suspended. It's a dumb act that should be disciplined. Just because Garrett took it to another level doesn't mean everyone else is a saint.

    How was it cheap when he literally just finished the tackle and even did it the 2019 way of pulling Rudolph on top of him?
     
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    How timely, I just saw a show on Lyle Alzado on ESPN I think that talked about the ‘Lyle Alzado Rule’ which states that you can’t use a helmet as a weapon! He did what this guy just did and it became a rule, but he had the excuse of being roided out.
     
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    As I said: "There was less than 15 seconds when the play started and it was a simple screen play to end the game. The lineman were not blocking 100% imo because the game was over."
    The game was over. Watch what #53 for the Browns did when we could have help "finished" the tackle. I don't think it was illegal but it was cheap and stupid.
     
  19. ISUCyclones2015

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    Then using that logic of "why bother" could argue why Mike Tomlin even called for a play on the first place down 14 with 15sec left. Why even risk anything?
     
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