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Not exactly sure.
I think Murray has far exceeded most people's expectations as a Freshman. He may never be a 1st team Big Ten guy but should be a really solid player for 4 years. Every team needs guys like that I think.
Who is going to develop him? Fran has not shown the ability to improve players.
 

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I think Murray has far exceeded most people's expectations as a Freshman. He may never be a 1st team Big Ten guy but should be a really solid player for 4 years. Every team needs guys like that I think.
I'd give my left arm for a guy like him on Iowa State's team.
 

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Even if Murray gets just a little bit better, he'll be a solid role player for Iowa for 4 years.
He's better than I thought he would be for sure. It will be interesting seeing how some of these guys will be with the POTY and very experienced guards.

I mean, at the time, I really thought Basabe was going to grow to be a really nice player from his freshman year.
 
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That’s the key though, getting even a smidge better. Fran hasn’t shown that ability.
A smidge better? Cmon. Guys have improved under Fran, there just haven't been a lot of them. Murray is a nice role player right now and as long as he doesn't get worse, he'll be a viable guy his entire career.
 

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He's better than I thought he would be for sure. It will be interesting seeing how some of these guys will be with the POTY and very experienced guards.

I mean, at the time, I really thought Basabe was going to grow to be a really nice player from his freshman year.
Yeah losing JW, JBo and Garza is going to be huge next year.
 
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Who is going to develop him? Fran has not shown the ability to improve players.
Murray is starter caliber for most teams right now. Probably should be for the Hawks too every game. Playing time has already made him better.
 

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Murray is starter caliber for most teams right now. Probably should be for the Hawks too every game. Playing time has already made him better.
I heard there were some unhappy Iowa fans who believe Murray should be starting over Connor.
 

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Not exactly sure.
Murray is starter caliber for most teams right now. Probably should be for the Hawks too every game. Playing time has already made him better.
He may have, I haven’t much of Iowa’s games so I will take your word; but playing time will only improve you so much. A good coach will develop them into the next level.
 

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Gesell had 205 assists his senior year. By comparison, Bolton has 71 this year. Gesell was another guy called terrible by CyTwins. Monte Morris had 217 assists his senior year. Mike Gesell is no Monte Morris but he also isn't "terrible".
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There's no point in arguing it because no change will be made, but there is truly no reason Connor is starting at this point.
The minute usage has always been weird. Olaseni started 1 game his entire career and averaged less than 14 minutes. That never made sense to me either.
 

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The minute usage has always been weird. Olaseni started 1 game his entire career and averaged less than 14 minutes. That never made sense to me either.
Fran has always done a terrible job of minutes and playing more guys than he should.
 

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