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jmb

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Garza was a conference player of the year, first team all American and runner up for NPOY last season.

Haliburton was 2nd team all conference last season.

Just because he is a much better NBA prospect doesn't mean he's a better college player.
Iowa doesn’t have any meaningful presence in the association. Clearly you don’t know nba ball.
 

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Iowa doesn’t have any meaningful presence in the association. Clearly you don’t know nba ball.

[whispers] This is what we make fun of Iowa football about-- bragging about pro players when somehow we only had marginal success with them...
 

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Wieskamp, Connor, Fredrick, Toussaint, Patrick and Nunge is a decent group to start with for 21-22.

ISU fans are optimistic for Tre Jackson's future and Toussaint was much better than him last season.
Tre will most likely be coming off the bench his entire career. I like his role of being a 3 point guy for us, as he shot 38% from 3 as a freshman in conference play.

And I'm sorry, that starting 5 is not good.
 

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[whispers] This is what we make fun of Iowa football about-- bragging about pro players when somehow we only had marginal success with them...
Oh I know. Still going to do it.
 

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[whispers] This is what we make fun of Iowa football about-- bragging about pro players when somehow we only had marginal success with them...

Our "marginal success" would trump anything Fran has accomplished in his entire career
 

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Do you know what revert means?

You talked about college and then reverted back to the pro argument which makes no sense.

Again, this appears to be really hard for you.
It's not reverting back as much as it is making a statement. In comparing the two players, I made two different observations. You're the one taking offense to small talk.
 

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It's not reverting back as much as it is making a statement. In comparing the two players, I made two different observations. You're the one taking offense to small talk.
Don’t be offended. He knows nothing about the nba so is very insecure.
 

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Don’t be offended. He knows nothing about the nba so is very insecure.
Also, it's important to point out that although Iowa has had far far more success with putting guys into the NFL compared to Iowa State, Iowa State still has guys who play, who've started, and who have gotten drafted in the NFL, however Iowa has two guys on NBA rosters at the moment who will never play a significant minute in their career, one of them who got picked up only because of the bubble scenario.
 

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3rd team all conference and he was gone most of the season?
It was mostly the last 5 games, in which he averaged 8 points on 8 shots per game, 26% from the floor, and 14% from the 3. He was pretty awful.
 

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How much hype would ISU fans have for a basketball team if they had this returning?

•Favorite for NPOY, returning 1st team AA
•3rd team all conference as a junior
•3rd team all conference as a sophomore
•A sophomore that was named to the conference all freshmen team last season and led the league in 3 point FG %.
•Player that led the country in A/TO ratio last season
 

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How much hype would ISU fans have for a basketball team if they had this returning?

•Favorite for NPOY, returning 1st team AA
•3rd team all conference as a junior
•3rd team all conference as a sophomore
•A sophomore that was named to the conference all freshmen team last season and led the league in 3 point FG %.
•Player that led the country in A/TO ratio last season
On paper, looks good, but within context, you have guys that have continuously been injured on there. 2 guys that played awful to end the year last year. And Connor McCaffery.
 

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How much hype would ISU fans have for a basketball team if they had this returning?

•Favorite for NPOY, returning 1st team AA
•3rd team all conference as a junior
•3rd team all conference as a sophomore
•A sophomore that was named to the conference all freshmen team last season and led the league in 3 point FG %.
•Player that led the country in A/TO ratio last season

Tons.

Haven't been to the Sweet 16 in 20+ years. Haven't won the conference in 40+ years. If you play defense maybe those things can happen.
 

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How much hype would ISU fans have for a basketball team if they had this returning?

•Favorite for NPOY, returning 1st team AA
•3rd team all conference as a junior
•3rd team all conference as a sophomore
•A sophomore that was named to the conference all freshmen team last season and led the league in 3 point FG %.
•Player that led the country in A/TO ratio last season, but can't score

FIFY. Too bad he can't even hold Monte's luggage!!

Don't forget that coveted player that got the prestigious Sportsmanship award!! LMAOF at that one yet!!