So, evidently Ku recruit/IU signee was on Adidas take as well ...

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  1. WalkingCY

    WalkingCY Well-Known Member

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    Interesting part of the story:

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  2. jbindm

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    How is there not a fundamental difference between the two cases? Bagley's family was using the sponsorship as their primary source of income. I mean, it's not a great look but as long as they could account for the money spent then it's good under the current structure, right?

    Sidney was suspended because his dad couldn't account for the money spent.
     
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  3. weR138

    weR138 Well-Known Member

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    Let me know when any of this catches up to KU in any meaningful way.

    TIA
     
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  4. peteypie

    peteypie Well-Known Member

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    I think the term blue blood just means they are damn good at covering their tracks.
     
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  5. KnappShack

    KnappShack Well-Known Member

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    Just pay the players.

    College basketball is just filthy
     
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  6. nfrine

    nfrine Well-Known Member

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    And still, nobody will be punished.
     
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  7. JM4CY

    JM4CY Well-Known Member

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    Because no one knew it happened. Duh.
     
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  8. surly

    surly Well-Known Member

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    Pitino said he arranged it. Maybe you were being sarcastic? We need a sarcasm meter emoji.
     
  9. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Active Member

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    Yea, must be nice when you not only have Bill Self recruiting for your school, but a multi-national corporation throwing around millions to feed potential lottery picks to your campus.
     
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  10. Clonehomer

    Clonehomer Well-Known Member

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    How much would you need to pay the players to avoid this?


    Trick question. There isn't enough money to keep kids and their parents from taking more to play for a school. This isn't about whether they should be paid, it's about the NCAA coming down hard to stop this. They can't keep ignoring the obvious problems and expect anyone to take the rules seriously. You can pay the players and enforce rules, but just simply distributing the money won't actually fix anything.
     
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  11. isucy86

    isucy86 Well-Known Member

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    I agree. If colleges pay kids, there will always be someone in the shadows willing to give a kid more coin on the side.

    IMO the main way to solve corruption in college basketball is a legit NBA minor league system that drafts HS kids. Kids like a Bagley, Ayton, Young, etc. won't be interested in college basketball if they can get something like a $1M signing bonus and then a decent salary if they play in the minors. You would also see kids in the top 50-100 go the minor league route if they have no interest in academics. Won't solve all the problems, but would probably bring some transparency if someone like Marvin Bagley can sign a shoe contract in HS.
     
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  12. heitclone

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    The thing is it's not about college bball at all. It's about securing these athletes when they become pro's. Nike ultimately doesn't care where which specific Nike school they go to, they have hundreds of schools. Even if the NCAA paid these kids, there would be shoe companies doing anything they could do to entice kids to their brand. Kids would just be getting NCAA money AND shoe money.
     
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  13. cykadelic2

    cykadelic2 Well-Known Member

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    Agree for the most part.

    The G-League already permits kids to play straight out of HS so that mechanism is already in place. What needs to be jointly agreed upon by the NBA, NBAPA and NCAA is that once a kid enrolls in college, he is ineligible to play in the NBA for two or three seasons (take your pick). This would force one-and-dones to play in the G-League or overseas for one season prior to being eligible to play in the NBA. Also, this would not force to have kids stay in school for at least two years. If a kid played one year of college and then wanted to go pro, he would have to play a year of G-League or overseas for at least one season before being NBA eligible.

    Win-Win-Win for all 3 parties. NBA doesn't want to draft or scout HS players, this would keep that intact while better prepping kids in GLeague instead of the NCAA for one season. NBAPA doesn't want kids straight out of HS eating up salary cap space and not being ready to actually play meaningful minutes in the NBA. NCAA wants to get rid of one and dones from playing college ball.
     
  14. Cyclone.TV

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    Nike absolutely cares. More exposure to that player is better for them. Duke is better exposure than say, LSU.
     
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  15. KCy

    KCy Active Member

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    The players need to decide, just like we all did, if they want to go to college or go get a job. If they want money right away, then go get it. Take whatever money you want from shoe companies and sign whatever contract is offered for sports. If they want to go to college, then they will have to wait. It is a simple system. Paying players would open the floodgates. NCAA can't handle things as it is, imagine if paying players was allowed.
     
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  16. IcSyU

    IcSyU Well-Known Member

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    The G League loses. No money in it for them.
     
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  17. cykadelic2

    cykadelic2 Well-Known Member

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    Agree for the most part.

    The G-League already permits kids to play straight out of HS so that mechanism is already in place. What needs to be jointly agreed upon by the NBA, NBAPA and NCAA is that once a kid enrolls in college, he is ineligible to play in the NBA for two or three seasons (take your pick). This would force one-and-dones to play in the G-League or overseas for one season prior to being eligible to play in the NBA. Also, this would not force kids stay in school for at least two years. If a kid played one year of college and then wanted to go pro, he would have to play a year of G-League or overseas for at least one season before being NBA eligible. GLeague tryouts after HS would determine who would be good enough to play GLeague as a one and done.

    Win-Win-Win for all 3 parties. NBA doesn't want to draft or scout HS players, this would keep that intact while better prepping kids in GLeague instead of the NCAA for one season. GLeague can keep their salaries low but projected NBA stars can collect all of the endorsement money they want while in GLeague for the one season. NBAPA doesn't want kids straight out of HS eating up their own salary cap space and not being ready to actually play meaningful minutes in the NBA. NCAA wants to get rid of one and dones from playing college ball.
     
  18. cykadelic2

    cykadelic2 Well-Known Member

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    Baloney, one and done type players would significantly increase their attendance.
     
  19. surly

    surly Well-Known Member

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    Most of these high profile guys would take a salary cut moving from places like Ku to the G-League, where the salary is a paltry $35,000/anum. I'm surprised this is even considered by posters here as a solution for one&dones. If that weren't the case, they'd be there already based on Jay Bilas's logic.

    In an email reportedly sent Aug. 20, 2016, and reviewed by Yahoo Sports, Dawkins gave his bosses at ASM Sports agency an update on his efforts to sign (Josh) Jackson after a meeting with Jones (Jackson's mother), who ran an AAU basketball team sponsored by Under Armour. "(Under Armour) is giving her 10k a month and she's also getting paid by adidas now — so she’s plenty taken care of," Dawkins wrote. https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/louisville/2018/02/24/kansas-basketball-john-jackson-apple-jones-phoenix-suns-college-basketball/369711002/
     

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