SMILEY FACE KILLERS

[marothisu]

Also, I don't know if SFK is right or not. If you were to go back a number of pages, you'd realize I said it's logical, however not everything that is logical is in fact reality. That's why I enjoy these discussions, until someone goes off point with something stupid.


I could say something that would **** a lot of people off, but it has to do with religion so I'm going to save it.

 

[LonoClone]

I think the main thing is the FBI hasn't actually investigated in that capacity. They are most likely looking for different things (i.e. signs of accidental alcohol-induced drowning). Usually if you are going to link these things together, you have to actually put forth an effort to link them together.

This is how I interpret it..they don't have any evidence because they didn't either collect any evidence or...they haven't actually done an investigation (which is money of course) to see if there's any linking.

Don't you think that the FBI looked at the data that Gannon and Duarte collected before putting forth a statement like this?

 

[marothisu]

Don't you think that the FBI looked at the data that Gannon and Duarte collected before putting forth a statement like this?

Do I think they *looked* at it? Sure. Do I think they actually made a project with a budget to actually investigate it? No, because anyone who knows anything about project management knows that you don't dive head long right away into a project without doing a little "pre-research." I'm guessing they did a little overview of the NYPD guys' data, didn't find anything to warrant spending a lot more money, and released a statement saying they found nothing out of the ordinary.

 

[jaretac]

Keep this thread going, I'll take every credit I can get.

 

[LonoClone]

Do I think they *looked* at it? Sure. Do I think they actually made a project with a budget to actually investigate it? No, because anyone who knows anything about project management knows that you don't dive head long right away into a project without doing a little "pre-research." I'm guessing they did a little overview of the NYPD guys' data, didn't find anything to warrant spending a lot more money, and released a statement saying they found nothing out of the ordinary.

I see, so we're "guessing" now, are we?

Rock soild evidence, man. Seriously, you just convinced me.

 

[LonoClone]

Where's a guy like GeronimousClone when you need him? I would appreciate his take on a thread like this.

 

[CloneAbuse]

"To date?" I really hope the SFK believers aren't hitching their wagons to that phrase.

To date, the FBI has found no evidence that monkeys can play the trombone.
To date, the FBI has found no link between marshmallows and head lice.
To date, the FBI has found no correlation between the migration of geese and midday traffic patterns on the eastern seaboard.

You seem awfully invested in convinving others why you're opinion is the only valid one. If you don't feel the theory has merit, let go of it. I'll openly acknowledge it's possible. I haven't made an argument that it's plausible.

I remember hearing the theory years ago and never gave it much thought until this missing person case. I follow crime stories and will continue to follow their theory and see where it leads.

 

[marothisu]

I see, so we're "guessing" now, are we?

Rock soild evidence, man. Seriously, you just convinced me.

First of all, I'm "guessing" at it because I have experience in that stage of a project and know that institutions who manage their money well don't randomly throw something at without doing a little bit of research first.

Secondly, maybe you should go back a number of pages and read what I said. I'm looking at this from a logical standpoint that yes, it is logically possible that _____ are being targeted by someone/a group and murdered.

Consider it my pre-research phase.

 

[LonoClone]

You seem awfully invested in convinving others why you're opinion is the only valid one. If you don't feel the theory has merit, let go of it. I'll openly acknowledge it's possible. I haven't made an argument that it's plausible.

I remember hearing the theory years ago and never gave it much thought until this missing person case. I follow crime stories and will continue to follow their theory and see where it leads.

Absolutely the opposite. I couldn't care less what people want to think or believe in. But there are people in this thread that are treating this theory like fact, when it is far, far from it.

And it's shameful that this kind of idiocy should even be the topic of conversation when Jon Lacina's friends and family are still clinging to hope.

 

[LonoClone]

First of all, I'm "guessing" at it because I have experience in that stage of a project and know that institutions who manage their money well don't randomly throw something at without doing a little bit of research first.

Secondly, maybe you should go back a number of pages and read what I said. I'm looking at this from a logical standpoint that yes, it is logically possible that _____ are being targeted by someone/a group and murdered.

Consider it my pre-research phase.

Phaedrus? Is that you?

 

[marothisu]

Absolutely the opposite. I couldn't care less what people want to think or believe in. But there are people in this thread that are treating this theory like fact, when it is far, far from it.

And it's shameful that this kind of idiocy should even be the topic of conversation when Jon Lacina's friends and family are still clinging to hope.

For the record, I'm not talking about Lacina in this thread. He hasn't even been located yet.

And again, I'm looking at it from a logical standpoint, not evidence yet.

 

[marothisu]

Phaedrus? Is that you?

No sorry.

 

[LonoClone]

First of all, I'm "guessing" at it because I have experience in that stage of a project and know that institutions who manage their money well don't randomly throw something at without doing a little bit of research first.

Secondly, maybe you should go back a number of pages and read what I said. I'm looking at this from a logical standpoint that yes, it is logically possible that _____ are being targeted by someone/a group and murdered.

Consider it my pre-research phase.

You do know that we are talking about the FBI, right? What would ever make you think that they manage their money well?

 

[RustShack]

LonoClone, I'm sorry but your kind of a ******.

 

[marothisu]

You do know that we are talking about the FBI, right? What would ever make you think that they manage their money well?

What makes you think they don't? Or is that just the hip and cliche thing to do -- assume every institution in the government does not manage their money well?

(A former roommate I stay in contact with from ISU works for them and tells me? I guess you could say I'm putting my "faith" in his word.)


Also, perhaps if they don't manage their money well as you say, perhaps they should re-consider doing an investigation with someone who does. Perhaps they're just allocating their resources incorrectly. First the FBI is the big word, then you say they don't manage their money correctly but they somehow did their investigation well without managing their money well. I'm not sure which one it is, do you?

 

[LonoClone]

What makes you think they don't? Or is that just the hip and cliche thing to do -- assume every institution in the government does not manage their money well?

(A former roommate I stay in contact with from ISU works for them and tells me? I guess you could say I'm putting my "faith" in his word.)


Also, perhaps if they don't manage their money well as you say, perhaps they should re-consider doing an investigation with someone who does. Perhaps they're just allocating their resources incorrectly. First the FBI is the big word, then you say they don't manage their money correctly but they somehow did their investigation well without managing their money well. I'm not sure which one it is, do you?

I think the FBI is completely capabale of performing an accurate investigation, but that doesn't mean that they manage their money wisely.

 

[CloneAbuse]

Absolutely the opposite. I couldn't care less what people want to think or believe in. But there are people in this thread that are treating this theory like fact, when it is far, far from it.

And it's shameful that this kind of idiocy should even be the topic of conversation when Jon Lacina's friends and family are still clinging to hope.

This thread was started specifically to discuss the SFK theory because jaretac (or others) didn't feel that it should be in the Lacina missing person thread.

You label it idiocy, however, some feel it's possilbe. Hence, my point, if you don't see the merits, don't waste your time. Or start a thread about how the theory is idiotic so it can be debated in a different context. :smile:

 

[LonoClone]

LonoClone, I'm sorry but your kind of a ******.

and you're kind of a lemming. Run, little lemming, run. Run right off that cliff with all of your brothers.

 

[LonoClone]

This thread was started specifically to discuss the SFK theory because jaretac (or others) didn't feel that it should be in the Lacina missing person thread.

You label it idiocy, however, some feel it's possilbe. Hence, my point, if you don't see the merits, don't waste your time. Or start a thread about how the theory is idiotic so it can be debated in a different context. :smile:

I am discussing the SFK theory. And how I think it's as plausible as Bigfoot.

I didn't realize that the thread was only for people who bought the theory.

 

[marothisu]

I think the FBI is completely capabale of performing an accurate investigation, but that doesn't mean that they manage their money wisely.

If you cannot manage your money correctly inside a project, there will be "flaws" in what you do most likely in the end product. If you try and cut corners or you don't get approved for the money you think you should have to do the job, your results might not be as good as if say, you had the extra $500,000 for certain tasks inside the project.