That was a brief summary of how I feel. I don't need to write a book all the time. If I did then someone like you would say something lame like "tl;dr". And please... I could name the entire defense if I wanted to.
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That was a brief summary of how I feel. I don't need to write a book all the time. If I did then someone like you would say something lame like "tl;dr". And please... I could name the entire defense if I wanted to.
You would think anyone with internet access could, but I remember after providing paragraphs of vague analysis of ISU's dline you couldn't name a single player when asked.
Just find it odd that someone who clearly thinks a lot of his own opinion and is so concerned with ISU fails to do any better than lazy generalities.
Heard today sales are strong and there was no drop off seen yet. Looks like most fans are stepping up. Good to see.
You heard wrong. Expect a 15%-25% decline at minimum, depending on what happened the last few hours before the deadline.
I think that would be unprecedented in JTS history. I looked up the yearly average attendance for every season played in JTS (1975 - 2014, available for free at Cyclones.com) and only once has there been a decrease in attendence of that magnitude. In 1996, we averaged 43,371 attendance followed by 36,487 in 1997 - a decrease of 16%. Really, the 1996 attendance was the outlier though because you have to go more than 3 years either direction from 1996 to find an average attendance greater than 39,000. I know attendance is different than season ticket sales, but I'd bet the correlation between the two is pretty strong and I doubt there's any way to get season ticket purchase numbers outside of the Athletic Dept.
From 1982 - 1986 we lost 24.5% of our average attendance (51,906 in 1982 to 39,162 in 1986).
From 1990 - 1993 we lost 19.7% (44,271 - 35,551).
From 1996 - 1998 we lost 18.8% (43,371 - 35,181).
From 2007 - 2010 we lost 8.2% (49,462 - 45,395).
A decrease of "at least 15% - 25%" would put our average attendance figures squarely into the 1990s realm again. Assuming the UNI and Iowa games are sellouts (assuming 61,000 attendance), then the average attendance of our final four games would have to be about 30,000. The only game on the schedule I don't see us drawing decently to is TCU who will likely destroy us. Otherwise it's KU, Texas and OSU. And our last home game is November 14 - early enough that the weather may still be bearable, and students will have another week of class before leaving for Thanksgiving. Plus SEZ, plus there is an outside shot that this team could be playing for bowl eligibility if we can win those first four (maybe five???) games.
Sounds like you are just speculating. We do know that 2,000 of the 3,000 available End Zone Club tickets are sold and we have 5 months to go.
The SEZ looks great. Combined with a great early season schedule, I doubt that season tickets will decline by the 9,000 to 10,000 that you are estimating.
They were down considerably going into the last day. Considerably being about 35% If ticket sales were great, why do you think they extended the deadline? Now, maybe there was a big push that afternoon, and the next day. But if not, 15%-20% is not out of the realm of possibility.
I was one who waited until the 11th hour. But we sit with a large group, and only 50% of our group renewed. I realize that's a small number, but I've talked to a lot of people who are not renewing, and just going to come to 3-4 games when it works out.
I'm sure the 2000 SEZ tickets are not new ticket holders. Most already were, and are now just changing their seats. So that's not really a good measurement of where we are at for total renewals.
I was one who waited until the 11th hour. But we sit with a large group, and only 50% of our group renewed. I realize that's a small number, but I've talked to a lot of people who are not renewing, and just going to come to 3-4 games when it works out.
I'm sure the 2000 SEZ tickets are not new ticket holders. Most already were, and are now just changing their seats. So that's not really a good measurement of where we are at for total renewals.
I am new STH for the SEZ, it's only 2 tickets and probably not representative of the whole. We look at the opportunity to come back home and visit with family/friends and make the game more of an event.
Where are you getting your information? Frankly, unless you have firsthand information (i.e. you work in the ticket office) I don't believe you. On the off chance you DO work for the Athletic Dept. I don't want you to post anything that will get you in trouble, but the rest of your post was nothing but conjecture.
FYI a Des Moines Register article last year stated season ticket sales as follows:
2014 - 40,581
2013 - 43,178
2011 - 40,547
2009 - 33,772 (1st year of CPR)
2005 - 22,420 (1st year of JP)
Other years were not listed. I assume these would not include student season tickets and am unsure about faculty season tickets. The article also said 2014 was the third consecutive year of 40,000+ season ticket sales. So I wonder if the 2011 figure was actually 2012 to make the previous statement correct.
2014 - 40,581
2013 - 43,178
2011 - 40,547
2009 - 33,772 (1st year of CPR)
2005 - 22,420 (1st year of JP)
Other years were not listed. I assume these would not include student season tickets and am unsure about faculty season tickets. The article also said 2014 was the third consecutive year of 40,000+ season ticket sales. So I wonder if the 2011 figure was actually 2012 to make the previous statement correct.
I believe the article said approximately 2000 less hillside season tickets were available.
Yes. I believe so. In 2015 there will no longer be individual hillside game tickets available. Also season hillside tickets are only available with the purchase of a Jr. Cyclone Club Ticket.
IMO, the ticket sales won't be as dramatic a drop as some are predicting. There is a lot of disappointment with the last couple of seasons. Yet, some of the biggest complainers have not followed through on their threat to not get tickets. The new stadium expansion along with a favorable home schedule should help. Start off the season with wins over UNI and Iowa, and we could sell out Kansas as well as the first 2 games.
One thing that hasn't seemed to be factored in is the Iowa/UNI effect. In recent years, visiting teams have not been able to get as many tickets because season tickets sold out to existing season ticket holders. That probably won't happen this year. So, we may sell a few thousand season tickets to Iowa/UNI fans who really only care about a game or two, but they get to be counted in tickets sales.
