MLB: Royals on the verge of acquiring James Shields and Wade Davis from the Rays

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I figured they'd have to trade Myers this offseason. When you haven't developed a good starting pitcher in many years (Greinke was a freak and didn't need much development), you put yourself in this situation. I like that we get 2 proven MLB pitchers in the deal. Now if we can just get rid of Frenchy and Hochevar...

I agree Hochever needs to go.... However when Danny Duffy comes back his career won't last much longer.
 

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As long as David Glass is CEO of the Royals this is the kind of trade to expect. Trade the future (and potential financial outlay it will take to maintain it) for the potential of inexpensive mediocrity today.
 

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Wade Davis will be starter this year. So now our rotation is Santana, Shields, Guthrie, Davis, and ??? (I'm still holding hope they get rid of Hochevar). Chen might fill the 5th spot until Duffy and Paulino get back.
 

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I hate this trade. I had a bad feeling that Dayton would do something like this. Even if you consider Shields an ace (which I think is very debatable) he's only under contract for 2 more years. I just don't think that's worth 6+ years of Wil Meyers at pre-free agency salary levels. And getting Wade Davis for Odorizzi & Montgomery doesn't thrill me either. Montgomery's got some serious work to do before he can be considered major league ready so I'm not upset about losing him, but I think giving up Odorizzi is going to be bite the Royals in the ***.

I really hope that this works out for the Royals, but I think this could end up being the nail in the coffin of Dayton Moore as Royals GM. He's basically going all-in which might be ok if the Royals were a playoff team who needed a push to win the World Series, but they're obviously not.
 

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Royals gave up way to much IMO but they desperately needed more pitching and they have at least done that
 

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I bet the Rays staff turns Montgomery into a top of the rotation starter. Where he was before the idiots in the Royals organization screwed him up.

I'm going to go do my god given right as a Coloradian and pretend this is all a dream.
 

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Wade Davis will be starter this year. So now our rotation is Santana, Shields, Guthrie, Davis, and ??? (I'm still holding hope they get rid of Hochevar). Chen might fill the 5th spot until Duffy and Paulino get back.

Right now probably Mendoza. Maybe Chen if they want to get a lefty in there.
 

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Yeah, Greg Schaum says it will be Chen. Hopefully once this goes through they trade Hochevar and cash for a tub of David's Sunflower seeds.

They have to make a move to for an OF now. Hoch won't get anybody but Smalls from the Sandlot, but maybe he had some range in the OF and could take a walk.
 

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So who would you guys give up to get an ace here? Butler, Hosmer, Moose? Myers is good and will be a stud, but could also be a joke.

BTW there were no great FA pitchers this year to sign or who would have wanted to sign with the Royals.
 
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Just a couple of things that are really ******* me off about this from a Royals perspective....

1. I like Shields. I think he's a good pitcher & in a vacuum, I'm glad he's a Royal now. But he's only under contract for 2 more years. He's not worth arguably the best hitting prospect in baseball given his contract status.

2. The Royals may have improved their rotation which was desperately needed, but now they have a huge hole to fill in RF. Get ready for the Francoeur tour of 2013 in KC & then they have nothing in the minors. Some people have mentioned Bonifacio, but he's AT A MINIMUM 2 years away from the majors. The kid played in the Midwest League last season for crying out loud.

3. Giving up Odorizzi & Montgomery for Wade Davis just makes this deal even worse. If the Royals plan on using Davis in the rotation, I'd argue that Odorizzi could probably come close to putting up the same numbers. And the more I think about this, the more I think the Royals are going to regret selling low on Monty. Lanky, power-lefties sometimes take longer to figure things out. I have a horrible feeling that it's going to happen in Tampa now. Of course, it's ridiculous to assume that Monty would have ever figured things out in the Royals organization with their stellar record of developing pitching.
 
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As long as David Glass is CEO of the Royals this is the kind of trade to expect. Trade the future (and potential financial outlay it will take to maintain it) for the potential of inexpensive mediocrity today.

This is why Cerner Corp. needs to take over the Royals. They've done great things for Sporting KC. They are also going to make bank off the Obama Care thing.
 

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Just a couple of things that are really ******* me off about this from a Royals perspective....

1. I like Shields. I think he's a good pitcher & in a vacuum, I'm glad he's a Royal now. But he's only under contract for 2 more years. He's not worth arguably the best hitting prospect in baseball given his contract status.

2. The Royals may have improved their rotation which was desperately needed, but now they have a huge hole to fill in RF. Get ready for the Francoeur tour of 2013 in KC & then they have nothing in the minors. Some people have mentioned Bonifacio, but he's AT A MINIMUM 2 years away from the majors. The kid played in the Midwest League last season for crying out loud.

3. Giving up Odorizzi & Montgomery for Wade Davis just makes this deal even worse. If the Royals plan on using Davis in the rotation, I'd argue that Odorizzi could probably come close to putting up the same numbers. And the more I think about this, the more I think the Royals are going to regret selling low on Monty. Lanky, power-lefties sometimes take longer to figure things out. I have a horrible feeling that it's going to happen in Tampa now. Of course, it's ridiculous to assume that Monty would have ever figured things out in the Royals organization with their stellar record of developing pitching.

This is the reason why the Royals were in this desperate situation. It's ridiculous.
 

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This is why Cerner Corp. needs to take over the Royals. They've done great things for Sporting KC. They are also going to make bank off the Obama Care thing.

Cerner doesn't have the money. Stan Kroenke needs to buy them. From Missouri, grew up a Cardinals fan, was in on the Dodgers last year, owns the Nuggets/Avs/Liverpool and the St. Louis Rams.
 

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Cerner doesn't have the money. Stan Kroenke needs to buy them. From Missouri, grew up a Cardinals fan, was in on the Dodgers last year, owns the Nuggets/Avs/Liverpool and the St. Louis Rams.

They are building a huge building next to Legends in KCK. They are also the only company that does medical records digitally which is one of the things listed in Obama Care.... If they don't have the money now, they will.
 

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I'd be fine for overpaying for James Shields if the Royals were in a position to make a World Series push, BUT....

1) they won 72 games last year
2) they finished 16 games back in the division
3) the division winner didn't even win 90 games

I'm sorry James Shields and Wade Davis don't make this team 16 games better in the standings. And you just gave up your solution for improving the black hole in RF not only for next season but for the next 6+ years.