Rhoads remains high on the future of Nigel Tribune

Discussion in 'Football' started by ChrisMWilliams, Oct 29, 2013.

  1. 3TrueFans

    3TrueFans Well-Known Member

    Sep 10, 2009
    He must have talent for Rhoads to play him as a true Freshman, but it sure seems like he gets beaten like a rented mule more often than not.
  2. ChrisMWilliams

    ChrisMWilliams Publisher
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    Apr 10, 2006
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    Bondurant, Iowa
    I just remember hearing time and time again this August how good he looked in those closed scrimmages. He showed them something alright.
  3. Cyclonepride

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    I like him a lot from what I have seen. I think he gets beat at times by guessing wrong or biting on the first move, which is something I have been seeing all over the field on defense this year with the youth.
  4. Gunnerclone

    Gunnerclone Well-Known Member

    Jul 16, 2010
    Cheddar Production
    In other news, I just remain high. :jimlad:
  5. CycloneErik

    CycloneErik Well-Known Member

    Jan 31, 2008
    Grad Student
    Long as they keep his confidence up from the beaten mule thing, he seems like a guy that can work out.
  6. Rhoadhoused

    Rhoadhoused Well-Known Member

    Apr 27, 2010
    Ames, IA
    Love what Tribune is going to bring as a player for us in the future, hate pulling his redshirt 3 games into the season.

    Trading 5/6 of a year of the worst football of his career for a year of what would be presumably his best year of his career.

    I don't blame the coaches for doing it, as losing the first two games obviously brings about more of a "win now" mentality, but the only positive that will come from this move is the in game experience Tribune gains for next year. The move would make a lot more sense and still can make a lot more sense, provided Tribune can be a major factor in actually getting some wins this year. If we rolled the dice on burning his redshirt in a lost season, I can't say I agree with the decision as someone who is a fan this year and will be a fan in 5 years no matter what.
  7. AdamJGray

    AdamJGray Administrator
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    Mar 9, 2011
    He played a decent amount against Iowa. UNI is the only game he didn't play this year.

    I thought since the Tech game he has looked really solid for a freshmen. He's already one of our best corners this year and will only get better.

    Personally, I think it's great he's playing. When an outside the trenches player is good enough to come in and start as a freshmen, you know you got a talented player. Leonard Johnson is a good example. Freshmen skill players start all across the country.
  8. PabloDiablo

    PabloDiablo Well-Known Member

    Feb 10, 2011
    Physical Therapist
    Omaha, NE
    I have to be honest and some on here may not feel the same way but I absolutely loved when he took his man to the ground in the endzone and had to be separated. I don't remember the specifics of the play all I remember is thinking that if he wants to be successful in this league against the offenses we play, he is going to need some fire.

    That play showed it to me.
  9. cyhawkdmb

    cyhawkdmb Well-Known Member

    Jul 13, 2010
    I liked when he got into it with the OSU WR after the BS PI call. I figured he would get flagged but he wasnt going to take any ****.
  10. CycloneWarning

    CycloneWarning Well-Known Member

    Jan 14, 2008
    Gosh, I must have already been buzzed, but I remember it just the opposite. Tribune got bulldozed into the ground by the OSU WR and got up ****** and ready to throw down.
  11. SCarolinaCy

    SCarolinaCy Well-Known Member

    Jun 20, 2011
    Greenville, SC
    I liked his textbook defense on a play against OKS. Going downhill at full speed, he turns back to face the ball and put himself between the ball and the defender--at just the right moment. Big improvement (listens to the coaches) over the TU game. Got called (wrongfully)for PI on the play, the Fox announcers (and crowd) were all over it.
  12. cloneu

    cloneu Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2007
    Financial Analyst
    I am excited for his future. He makes freshman mistakes. But he also makes good plays like on the bad PI call against him last weekend. The play before that he is all over an out route so they try an out & up and he is all over the out but still able to beat the WR deep. Will be a shut down corner one day.
  13. Bigman38

    Bigman38 Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2010
    Council Bluffs, IA
    This is what I saw too. Impressive development considering that many of our upperclassmen in the secondary still struggle with playing the ball and not the receiver.
  14. Rhoadhoused

    Rhoadhoused Well-Known Member

    Apr 27, 2010
    Ames, IA
    I'm not looking at if he is good enough to start, I am looking at how much better he is than the next guy. The coaches themselves couldn't even list him as the outright #2 corner until I think the Baylor game. He was listed as an OR with Lynn.

    And the reason I don't like it is because he is so good. His RS Senior year would be valuable beyond what we are getting from him this year.

    The arguments for not RSing the guys like Knott, Klein, Lenz, ect are easy: They helped ISU win a bowl game their freshmen years. Hard to argue against that. But is it really worth it, especially in hindsight, for a 2-3 win season?

    I just don't see any benefits outside of experience for next year for Tribune, but I can't say I think that it outweighs the benefits you get from a 5th year.

    And again, I understand why the coaches get it. They coach for this year and not for 5 years down the road. They don't want to get fired. But that isn't necessarily what is best for a fan in 5 years when you are going to be a fan either way.
  15. GoSTATE71

    GoSTATE71 Well-Known Member

    May 19, 2008
    He's getting beaten pretty good out there right now but it should help him and his future here. For a freshman he has been okay, not as good as a Leonard Johnson in my opinion but decent. Would of rather seen him redshirt. If only Watson was good to go all season. Him and Richardson would of been fine, with Lynne playing backup to either side.
  16. CloneIce

    CloneIce Well-Known Member

    Apr 11, 2006
    His size and talent is obvious. As a true freshman he has a lot of learning to do, but you can tell he is going to be a good one. Unfortunately he's the only guy on our D at this point that looks like a future NFL player to me.
  17. nhclone

    nhclone Well-Known Member

    Nov 20, 2008
    He's come a long way this season already just from the playing time. I agree that he's one of very few players on our defense who try to play the ball in the air. That's got me hopeful for his future.

    I'd have to disagree about looking worse than LJ at this point in their careers, Leonard got burnt plenty as a freshman. He turned out OK though, I guess. :jimlad:
  18. BigLame

    BigLame Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2008
    Western IA
    Has improved quite a bit over last 3 games. Think playing a CB as a Freshmen is not as big as issue as playing a linebacker. Better maybe to have had Klein & Knott (but happy they have made it to the NFL - so not near the issue there, just being selfish), so I think it better to not play the likes of Meeks early, but a skill position like CB this year with Tribune & next year with Lazard.
  19. clone4good

    clone4good Member

    Oct 27, 2009
    eh, I don't see true freshman from top 25-40 schools get beat like he does. I think Leonard Johnson was our best true freshman DB that we have had in the last 5-10 years. (I think he played as a true freshman?) But then again our DB's have no DL or LB play to help them out.... So maybe he will get better.

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