Refs were terrible both ways

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What was Huggins mad about? I was at the game and I couldn't tell.

P.S. It was a unique privilege and pleasure to see him get tossed.
 
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Biggest issues I continually see:
Ref that is by scorers table calls a foul on action around the rim that 2 others that are closer don't.
Ticky tack hand fouls when someone is driving are incredibly inconsistent.
And teams getting to huddle up during non timeout time. We were supposed to be shooting a FTs, a WV guy fouls out, and WV huddled up by the scorers table and refs let them get away with it. Come on, hurry the game up.
 
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Biggest issues I continually see:
Ref that is by scorers table calls a foul on action around the rim that 2 others that are closer don't.
Ticky tack hand fouls when someone is driving are incredibly inconsistent.
And teams getting to huddle up during non timeout time. We were supposed to be shooting a FTs, a WV guy fouls out, and WV huddled up by the scorers table and refs let them get away with it. Come on, hurry the game up.

Edit: it is 15 seconds. I was WAY wrong.

Coaches have 1 minute to make a substitution after a player fouls out. Eades, for once, did a nice job of getting them over to the line once time was up.
 
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What was up with the guy blowing the horn multiple times while Wigginton was shooting free throws?
 

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I feel like on these flagrant fouls they are just following the letter of the law and not even considering intent at all. Did Babb's elbow maybe touch the WV player.... sure.... maybe? But the WV player was coming at him too, and there obviously was no intent there at all.

I look at it like the play in the Alamo Bowl that got Enyl tossed. Just ridiculous. Did their helmets maybe barely touch as Enyl was landing on Minshew..... yes. So by rule that's targeting then? C'mon. We have to use some common sense here don't we? It's ruining both football and basketball.
 

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What was up with the guy blowing the horn multiple times while Wigginton was shooting free throws?

They gave him the ball before the time out was over. The horn operator was correct in notifying them that, and they should have (likely) awarded a replacement FT. Then the officials failed to explain all that.
 
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Coaches have 1 minute to make a substitution after a player fouls out. Eades, for once, did a nice job of getting them over to the line once time was up.
Who keeps track of 1 minute, table or ref?
 

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Coaches have 1 minute to make a substitution after a player fouls out. Eades, for once, did a nice job of getting them over to the line once time was up.

It's not a minute. It's 15 seconds.

Ref reports the foul. Horn sounds signalling 5th foul on the player. Table crew starts a timer. 15 seconds later, second horn and we play on.
 

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They gave him the ball before the time out was over. The horn operator was correct in notifying them that, and they should have (likely) awarded a replacement FT. Then the officials failed to explain all that.


Was there a timeout? I thought it happened after Huggins got tossed.
 

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Was there a timeout? I thought it happened after Huggins got tossed.

The first technical triggered the under-4 media timeout. He got the second one during the timeout. The timeout hadn't concluded (neither a first horn nor second horn) when Darron George decided we were just going to start playing again.
 

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It's not a minute. It's 15 seconds.

Ref reports the foul. Horn sounds signalling 5th foul on the player. Table crew starts a timer. 15 seconds later, second horn and we play on.
Whoa, if that's the case it was way beyond that.
 
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I feel like on these flagrant fouls they are just following the letter of the law and not even considering intent at all. Did Babb's elbow maybe touch the WV player.... sure.... maybe? But the WV player was coming at him too, and there obviously was no intent there at all.

I look at it like the play in the Alamo Bowl that got Enyl tossed. Just ridiculous. Did their helmets maybe barely touch as Enyl was landing on Minshew..... yes. So by rule that's targeting then? C'mon. We have to use some common sense here don't we? It's ruining both football and basketball.

That’s the soft headed blanket type rule designed to take the heat off the crew for making a judgement call. By design, it takes the judgement out, which is stupid.
 
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