PODCAST: Perspective on this morning's news, where things might be heading
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There has been some talk about four 16 team conferences, but as you have alluded to, I just don’t see it. We are trending towards one super conference and then everybody else
G-R-E-E-D!
Texas will NEVER be happy until they are the ONLY member of the LONE STAR Conference.
Smart Strategy by OU and T to say they will honor their grant of rights agreement - in the meantime the other schools all have to look out for themselves and make their own deals. Then everyone will want to get out of them together sooner than later.
I remember when the last realignment earth quake took place. Hawk fans were laughing hysterically at the inevitable demise of ISU and here we are today, looking down at Iowa in the national rankings and in recruiting. They should probably be careful about laughing again this time. We might be looking down at them in the conference standings. Boy, I bet that would sting.
So this new look SEC would be football heavy.... and not so much in Basketball.
Ironically, you could argue the remaining 8 teams make for a stronger basketball conference. Texas has been a major underachiever in basketball. They always disappoint at March Madness. OU has been up and down lately.
Regardless, the Big 12 is over. I will enjoy watching ISU crush Texas and OU for the big 12 title. They can watch us in the playoffs from the comfort of their couches. Then when they join the SEC, they can enjoy more $ and less victories.
Ironically, you could argue the remaining 8 teams make for a stronger basketball conference. Texas has been a major underachiever in basketball. They always disappoint at March Madness. OU has been up and down lately.
Regardless, the Big 12 is over. I will enjoy watching ISU crush Texas and OU for the big 12 title. They can watch us in the playoffs from the comfort of their couches. Then when they join the SEC, they can enjoy more $ and less victories.
I'm honestly surprised how many people don't really understand what Big 10 membership really is about. The athletic budgets pale in comparison to what these schools get in research and patent money. At the end of the day, tOSU and Michigan ADs can desire all they want to go to the SEC, but the Universities are not going to give up the loss in prestige and research money to go play football somewhere else.
While I do think that remains a thing they aren’t going to just become irrelevant in sports. They will disassociate the sports from the academic affiliations.
last time I thought we had a 10% chance. This time I think maybe 30%.
to be clear, anything short of the big 10 is very very bad for Iowa State.
Could the Big 12/PAC 12/B1G all merge to form one large 32-team super conference?
I see only drastic options available if any conference wants to counter-punch the SEC.
Otherwise, what, the B1G or PAC 12 adds a few leftover big 12 schools and life goes on as normal? Yeah, No.
I see only drastic options available if any conference wants to counter-punch the SEC.
Otherwise, what, the B1G or PAC 12 adds a few leftover big 12 schools and life goes on as normal? Yeah, No.
I hope you are right. My pessimism is fueled by how brazen OU is in all of this. They just screwed their fellow state institution good and hard and didn't think twice about it. I can see other flagship state institutions doing the same thing (looking at you Ohio State). We've come to expect this self serving behavior from Texa$, but now it is becoming the norm among these blue bloods. ESPN is in the background egging them on. It floors me that the University of Oklahoma can unilaterally damage its sister institution this way. These are both state institutions after all. This isn't just some private business deciding to pursue a merger. Even the Texas legislature seems to be stepping up and taking note of how this is going damage Tech, TCU, Baylor and others. Everyone assumes there will be some sort of peaceful outcome to this. I just don't see it. Lawyers are going to get involved soon. I hope OU, Texa$ and the SEC get sued for billions.
That certainly would be an interesting plot twist. I'd be very interested in seeing how well that goes without the tax exempt status. As I've said numerous times, it's not even the institutions having to pay taxes, that would be a slight hit, but still be easy. It's the fact that the donations they usually get are no longer tax deductible for the donors. There is a reason that you don't hear about $10million dollar donations to the Chicago Bears so they can build a new practice facility or revamp their locker room.
JP or Warren.
And responses to just two questions-- 1) Will the B10 join the arms race and expand this year? and 2) How important is AAU membership?
All the other crap is just noise at this point.
It really all comes down to what Ohio St and Michigan want. Then also Clemson and maybe FSU, USC, Washington, Oregon. If the big boys in the other conferences think a super conference is the best move, everyone else is in trouble.
But if they want to fight back, now is the perfect time. The SEC is a big media draw because they've won the most national championships and have the most future pros, but if it tries to go it alone, it becomes a regional product and you could see a similar backlash like happened to European soccer when some teams tried to break away. Then it becomes possible for other P5 schools to work together, try to isolate the SEC, and knock them down a peg.
Just because it hasn’t really gotten the traction so far I think it’s probably another round away but the long term adjustment is basically no conferences and a single governing agency. This would either be the 30-40 team league or the 60-80 team league. Once you get everyone collectively bargaining the media rights it will improve. Right now there’s just to many competing forces.
What's the point in making more money if it doesn't lead to more wins or more success on the field? There is no reason to think this is going to lead to more wins for OU or Texas. If it leads to less, their revenue will likely drop from lost ticket sales and donations.
