OU HOOPS: Two transfers in last three days

[cyclonespiker33]

Trae had a lot of turnovers but his assist/turnover ratio was still 1.66

For reference:
Weiler-Babb 2.71
Wigginton 0.96
Jackson 1.29
Talley 1.60

Kennan Evans 1.66

Everyone on Oklahoma beside Trae 0.76

 

[CyTwins]

Incredibly frustrating to play with the NCAA leader in assists.

Stop it with all the facts!

 

[FinalFourCy]

Incredibly frustrating to play with the NCAA leader in assists.

Assists per game? Lol. Next you’ll use points per game in support of the usage rate being optimal.

 

[cloneteach]

Assists per game? Lol. Next you’ll use points per game in support of the usage rate being optimal.

He led the nation in assist rate too. In fact, almost 5% higher than 2nd place.

Note: Minimum 40% minutes played to qualify.
Rank Player Team Ht Wt Yr ARate
1 Trae Young Oklahoma 6-2 180 Fr 48.5
2 Cassius Winston Michigan St. 6-0 185 So 43.7
3 Darrian Ringo Miami OH 6-2 173 Jr 42.2
4 Milik Yarbrough Illinois St. 6-6 230 Jr 42.1
5 Markell Johnson North Carolina St. 6-1 175 So 40.5
6 Jaylen Shaw Coastal Carolina 6-1 190 Sr 40.2
7 Amorie Archibald Louisiana Tech 6-3 176 Fr 38.9
8 Austin Luke Belmont 6-3 200 Sr 38.6

 

[Rural]

Where'd he end up in turnovers?

 

[CyTwins]

He led the nation in assist rate too. In fact, almost 5% higher than 2nd place.

 

[cloneteach]

Where'd he end up in turnovers?

His turnover rate was 20%. His backup, who is transferring, had a turnover rate of 28.6%.

 

[Rural]

His turnover rate was 20%. His backup, who is transferring, had a turnover rate of 28.6%.

I don't know about rates but watching the games his turnovers were the killer variety.

As in, when playing anyone decent, you won't win.

 

[rholtgraves]

Another problem Young had was on the defensive end he gambled a lot for steals. He just didn't play smart. Chucking 3s when he didn't need to instead of looking for a better shot, careless turnovers, gambling on defense. As the season progressed and he was getting all the hype you also started to hear him in interviews mainly just talk about himself and not the team which ESPN helped perpetuate with the tracker and the when a Big 12 team played them it would be advertised as KU v. Trae Young etc.

In a league like the Big 12, there are going to be a lot of close games and turnovers, bad shots etc can make a huge difference. I also think it seemed like he got more calls early in the year and near the end refs were figuring out his tricks. But all this being said, we are talking about a very gifted player. he is damn good. I just think Kruger did a piss poor job in helping become a better player and teammate.

 

[MRN4ISU]

Anyone else remember when halfway through the season (aka when the losing started) people kept clamoring for fellow ISU fans to keep Oklahoma in mind (since they were bad last year) as an example of better things being on the horizon?

Yikes. Talk about an ice-cold take.

 

[CTTB78]

...... Think of how much better Loyola would be if the had Custer taking 35-footers.

It must be a growing thing in college ball. Look how many 35 footers Deonte Graham took in KU's last win.

 

[CTTB78]

Stop it with all the facts!

One fact that doesn't get mentioned much-- Trae Young will be a multi-millionare in about a month.

 

[FinalFourCy]

He led the nation in assist rate too. In fact, almost 5% higher than 2nd place.

Note: Minimum 40% minutes played to qualify.
Rank Player Team Ht Wt Yr ARate
1 Trae Young Oklahoma 6-2 180 Fr 48.5
2 Cassius Winston Michigan St. 6-0 185 So 43.7
3 Darrian Ringo Miami OH 6-2 173 Jr 42.2
4 Milik Yarbrough Illinois St. 6-6 230 Jr 42.1
5 Markell Johnson North Carolina St. 6-1 175 So 40.5
6 Jaylen Shaw Coastal Carolina 6-1 190 Sr 40.2
7 Amorie Archibald Louisiana Tech 6-3 176 Fr 38.9
8 Austin Luke Belmont 6-3 200 Sr 38.6

Damn Lon, how could you let others handle the ball? Young could have had a 100% assist rate if actually used exclusively, but OU’s record would have been even worse.

 

[Kurttr]

Cloneteach, a few thoughts:
> I assume Young already has an agent, but, if not, good luck (hope you can enjoy a little levity)
> Can you honestly say that:
--- You enjoyed watching OU play throughout the year (I had to turn away as the year went on as Young dominated the ball with less success; heck, my 8th-grader was recording his games early/mid-year to watch and later in the year wouldn't even turn him on live)?
--- You wouldn't have been extremely frustrated as a teammate of his?

Even tho' OU had a rough 2016/2017, I was impressed with their young talent in McGusty and... think it was Doolittle... can't even remember the other guy's name b/c it was all "Young" this year... seriously... #s 11 & 20 from 2016/2017.

 

[NoCreativity]

How many more pseudo turnovers did he have because he jacked up stupid contested shots that had no chance of going in?

The guy was a cancer.

 

[CyTwins]

How many more pseudo turnovers did he have because he jacked up stupid contested shots that had no chance of going in?

The guy was a cancer.

You say a lot of stupid stuff

 

[TheJackWePack5]

How many more pseudo turnovers did he have because he jacked up stupid contested shots that had no chance of going in?

The guy was a cancer.

What? Oklahoma was 11-20 last season and wasn't exactly oozing with talent outside of Young.

 

[CyTwins]

How many more pseudo turnovers did he have because he jacked up stupid contested shots that had no chance of going in?

The guy was a cancer.

Go to the 25 min mark if you think he's a cancer

https://cyclonefanatic.com/podcasts/podcast-sit-down-with-iowa-state-ga-nick-graham/

 

[cloneteach]

Cloneteach, a few thoughts:
> I assume Young already has an agent, but, if not, good luck (hope you can enjoy a little levity)
> Can you honestly say that:
--- You enjoyed watching OU play throughout the year (I had to turn away as the year went on as Young dominated the ball with less success; heck, my 8th-grader was recording his games early/mid-year to watch and later in the year wouldn't even turn him on live)?
--- You wouldn't have been extremely frustrated as a teammate of his?

Even tho' OU had a rough 2016/2017, I was impressed with their young talent in McGusty and... think it was Doolittle... can't even remember the other guy's name b/c it was all "Young" this year... seriously... #s 11 & 20 from 2016/2017.

>Young probably does have an agent, most NBA lottery picks do.
>They ran a quick efficient offense. It was more fun when they were winning, but that is true of most teams.
>Frustrated or jealous? Improving by 7 wins over one season is a great accomplishment. If my goal as a player was to put up my own stats, yes I would have been frustrated. If my goal as a player was to win games, no I wouldn't have been as frustrated.

 

[SCyclone]

Coaching is a perishable skill and he’ll be 66 this summer. This was also Year 7 at OU and Kruger has never stayed at a place longer than that.

Kruger has coached college ball at 6 different schools. He took 5 of them to the Dance. Only Tubby Smith had done that.