Opening B12 conference game lines ...

[surly]

ISU -7 at Baylor - I'll take ISU to cover
TCU-10 at SMU - SMU in the rivalry
Ku +13 at Duke - Duke, it won't be close
K-State +9 at oSu - weird, EMAW and the farm
WVU +19.5 at OU - WVU to cover
TxT +13 at Texas - Texas

 

[cyIclSoneU]

Iowa State by 10
TCU by 21
Duke by 28
K-State covers, OSU wins
WVU covers, OU wins
Tech covers and wins outright

 

[Die4Cy]

O/U is 43.5 for Baylor/ISU.

 

[surly]

As money is placed the lines change across the boards, sans TCU.

Now +6.5 ISU -7 at Baylor - I'll take ISU to cover
TCU-10 at SMU - SMU in the rivalry
Now +15.5 Ku +13 at Duke - Duke, it won't be close
Now +6 K-State +9 at oSu - weird, EMAW and the farm
Now +16.5 WVU +19.5 at OU - WVU to cover
Now +8.5 TxT +13 at Texas - Texas

 

[TheJackWePack5]

Clones cover.
TCU covers.
KU covers, might actually win the game.
K-State covers & wins.
WVU gets the doors blown off of them, OU covers.
Texas wins & covers.

 

[inCyteful]

On paper the latest lines look ok but I wouldn't touch any of them right now. Did not learn much of anything in noncon except there is more parity in Big XII than expected (save Kansas).

 

[surly]

OOC suggests to me:

ISU loathes September
OU is overrated
Ku is, well, Ku
TxT has improved marginally
Baylor is better than forecast
WVU is an enigma
TCU is holding serve
K-State is dangerous injured
oSu is offensively challenged
Texas is in transition

 

[JM4CY]

Our games against Baylor are always weird. I would not touch that line.

 

[cyfan92]

ISU -7 at Baylor - I'll take ISU to cover
TCU-10 at SMU - SMU in the rivalry
Ku +13 at Duke - Duke, it won't be close
K-State +9 at oSu - weird, EMAW and the farm
WVU +19.5 at OU - WVU to cover
TxT +13 at Texas - Texas

Baylor - ISU wins by 3 to 6
TCU by 14
Duke by 14+
OSU - Really want to see Howard play better before I throw the farm at him. PLus OSU's run D is pretty tough
Tech - mostly because UT is in transition and TT defense is pretty good
OU since they are home and Doege isn't good

 

[coolerifyoudid]

That

Baylor - ISU wins by 3 to 6
TCU by 14
Duke by 14+
OSU - Really want to see Howard play better before I throw the farm at him. PLus OSU's run D is pretty tough
Tech - mostly because UT is in transition and TT defense is pretty good
WV +16 vs OU plz and thank you. WV hasn't lost at home since Neal Brown has found his defense. Hope that stops when ISU visits

WVU is at Oklahoma.
I still think that is a lot of points though.

 

[cyfan92]

That


WVU is at Oklahoma.
I still think that is a lot of points though.

Dand. I read that wrong.. I'll take OU then

 

[surly]

Baylor - ISU wins by 3 to 6
TCU by 14
Duke by 14+
OSU - Really want to see Howard play better before I throw the farm at him. PLus OSU's run D is pretty tough
Tech - mostly because UT is in transition and TT defense is pretty good
OU since they are home and Doege isn't good

You're undervaluing your own team's talent. Baylor has played nobody. This should be a relatively easy win for the experienced and talented Clones.

As for oSu defense, K-State's is at least equal to theirs. This game comes down to how well the offense lines play opening up run games.

 

[cyfan92]

You're undervaluing your own team's talent. Baylor has played nobody. This should be a relatively easy win for the experienced and talented Clones.

As for oSu defense, K-State's is at least equal to theirs. This game comes down to how well the offense lines play opening up run games.

Baylor is 11 spots ahead of KState in SP+ as we sit today.. ESPN's FPI says it will be a close game.. Vegas odds are coming in.. 2020 Baylor game was way too close even though ISU was vastly better than they are right now. I have no faith in our running game at the moment and Brock has had trouble with Baylor's style of defense in the past.

This will be a painfully close game in Waco

 

[cycloneML]

You're undervaluing your own team's talent. Baylor has played nobody. This should be a relatively easy win for the experienced and talented Clones.

As for oSu defense, K-State's is at least equal to theirs. This game comes down to how well the offense lines play opening up run games.

Cats haven’t won there since 1999

 

[surly]

Baylor is 11 spots ahead of KState in SP+ as we sit today.. ESPN's FPI says it will be a close game.. Vegas odds are coming in.. 2020 Baylor game was way too close even though ISU was vastly better than they are right now. I have no faith in our running game at the moment and Brock has had trouble with Baylor's style of defense in the past.

This will be a painfully close game in Waco

I trust my eyes and history over analytics this early in the season. K-State was underdogs playing both Stanford and Nevada. It's still too early to trust data. I've got the Clones relatively easily in this one at Waco unless it's sultry hot.

 

[cyfan92]

I trust my eyes and history over analytics this early in the season. K-State was underdogs playing both Stanford and Nevada. It's still too early to trust data. I've got the Clones relatively easily in this one at Waco unless it's sultry hot.

Mid 90's heat index last I checked for Saturday's game in Waco. Field turf in the sun will feel like 110+

 

[surly]

Mid 90's heat index last I checked for Saturday's game in Waco. Field turf in the sun will feel like 110+

Well, that could shave some points because the Clones haven't experienced those kinds of conditions, I'll give you that as a negative.