Ok enough day dreams do you think Mess is gone after the season for real?

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  1. ghettocowboy4cy

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    i just want to hear some legit thoughts?
     
  2. MaccloNe

    MaccloNe Well-Known Member

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    hope so, but maybe or maybe not.
     
  3. Cyclonesince78

    Cyclonesince78 Well-Known Member

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  4. Clonefan32

    Clonefan32 Well-Known Member

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    Do you think the hundreds of other pages on this topic are illegitimate thoughts?
     
  5. kentvenice

    kentvenice New Member

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    I think he's had enough of a chance to prove himself, and it is obvious that his system doesn't work!!! Either change his offensive system or find someone who can/will.
     
  6. Judoka

    Judoka Well-Known Member

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    I have a sinking feeling that he won't be.
     
  7. MNCyGuy

    MNCyGuy Well-Known Member

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    I think he's definitely going to be removed from the OC position, but something tells me he'll manage to keep some sort of job within the program.
     
  8. klamath632

    klamath632 Well-Known Member

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    He gone.




    * Referring to the OP, hopefully he's banned for spam.
     
  9. SerenityNow

    SerenityNow Well-Known Member

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    Just once, I'd like to come to CF and not see a thread about this.

    Yeah, yeah, I know - don't open the thread and all that.

    All I know is we'll know for sure one way or another by 08/31 of next year.
     
  10. Cyclonick182

    Cyclonick182 Well-Known Member

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    I'm solidly in the "I'll believe it when I see it" camp. He deserves to be sent packing but I have 0 faith that CPR has the stones to actually do it. These kids on the offense deserve to be put in positions to win for all the work they put it and Mess hasn't shown that he can deliver that.
     
  11. Agclone91

    Agclone91 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think he will be gone, and I'm still not convinced at all that he wont be OC.
     
  12. awd4cy

    awd4cy Well-Known Member

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    It's pretty simple. If Rhoads doesn't get rid of him then it will cost him his job within the next couple years.
     
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  13. CyTwins

    CyTwins Well-Known Member

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    CPR knows he has to make staff changes to keep fan support and this is the obvious one. I don't see how he doesn't do it
     
  14. Cyclonick182

    Cyclonick182 Well-Known Member

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    I would hope its that much of a black and white decision for him, but I don't see it.
     
  15. aeroclone

    aeroclone Well-Known Member

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    Bingo.
     
  16. Land Grant

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    It was never all about Mess for me (though he is not good). Rather, it is about retooling the entire offense soup to nuts—from philosophy to plays to execution to coaching/preparation. It has also become about PR owning up to his own shortcomings in this regard.

    The ridiculous statement by PR today about QBs and next season (a question that never should have been answered), suggests to me that PR is not willing/able to significantly change his O philosophy, or to hire someone and get out of the way.

    The end result ... well let me put it this way: I think it a strong possibility that when we break ground on the new end zone, we'll also be breaking ground with a new head coach.




     
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  17. CycoCyclone

    CycoCyclone Well-Known Member

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    maybe not gone (he's a good recruiter per CPR) but definitely not OC
     
  18. awd4cy

    awd4cy Well-Known Member

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    I guess if he doesn't see it, then he wasn't really ever going to get it done here and he is not the man for the job.
     
  19. jcisuclones

    jcisuclones Well-Known Member

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    Not sure if they'll fire him, but more than likely won't be our OC next season.
     
  20. cyclone13

    cyclone13 Well-Known Member

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    With the SEZ confirmed today, there will be a much greater pressure to produce. Our stadium will not look pretty, even with the SEZ, if our attendance sucks.

    I could see another year for Mess and if things don't work, I am sure he will be gone.
     

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