Carpenter got in the line up a few days ago, because the Cards had zero production out of right field. He's stayed in, I imagine, b/c he's put the bat on the ball (including some strokes to left) and walked several times (including pre-Yadi HR yesterday). Goldy is out today with back tightness.Carpenter batting 2nd today. WHAT THE ACTUAL F***?!?!?!
Carpenter got in the line up a few days ago, because the Cards had zero production out of right field. He's stayed in, I imagine, b/c he's put the bat on the ball (including some strokes to left) and walked several times (including pre-Yadi HR yesterday). Goldy is out today with back tightness.
I think they’re trying to see if he flares to life just enough so they can trade him off cheap.Carp plays simply because he’s owed $18 million this year. You can try to get him at bats to get him going but he went like 1-30 in spring training and has hit .200 the past 2 years with starter number at bats. You have a first basemen in Nogowski on the bench who is a career .290 hitter in the minors and hit .333 in spring training and Shildt is out there trying to justify Carp hitting because he likes the matchup. Like what? That makes absolutely no sense.
Trade him off? How about we just eat the 18 million and release him. Since teams have started the shift on him, for some reason he refuses to drop a bunt towards third. Just try to hit it through them or over the wall. It doesn't work, didn't two years ago, nor last year, and it will not work this year.I think they’re trying to see if he flares to life just enough so they can trade him off cheap.
Trade him off? How about we just eat the 18 million and release him. Since teams have started the shift on him, for some reason he refuses to drop a bunt towards third. Just try to hit it through them or over the wall. It doesn't work, didn't two years ago, nor last year, and it will not work this year.
About time we tell him, if you get to the plate with the shift on, and you do not bunt and beat it out, you will not be playing the next day. So looking forward to getting him and Martinez off the team next year, with the Fowler money also coming of the books, even with the NA money coming on, the Cards should be able to so out and find one bat at least.
The problem with this is it seems to be a team based strategy to not do it and it isn’t exclusive to the cardinals. I don’t get it but it isn’t just a Cardinals or Carpenter thing.Trade him off? How about we just eat the 18 million and release him. Since teams have started the shift on him, for some reason he refuses to drop a bunt towards third. Just try to hit it through them or over the wall. It doesn't work, didn't two years ago, nor last year, and it will not work this year.
About time we tell him, if you get to the plate with the shift on, and you do not bunt and beat it out, you will not be playing the next day. So looking forward to getting him and Martinez off the team next year, with the Fowler money also coming of the books, even with the NA money coming on, the Cards should be able to so out and find one bat at least.
With that “we”, how much of that $18 million are you willing to eat?Trade him off? How about we just eat the 18 million and release him.
His salary is sunken costs, currently he is 0-11 on the season, last year he hit .186, with 4 HRs, the year before .226 with 15 HRs. This is not a slump that he is pulling out of, its time to cut base and release him.With that “we”, how much of that $18 million are you willing to eat?
I don’t think they’re hoping for value in return. What they’re hoping for is to get at least part of his salary off the books.
How long this “hope experiment” continues, I have no idea.
Because if he manages to start hitting in the next month, you might manage to dump a good portion of that $18 million on someone else, instead of swallowing it?His salary is sunken costs, currently he is 0-11 on the season, last year he hit .186, with 4 HRs, the year before .226 with 15 HRs. This is not a slump that he is pulling out of, its time to cut base and release him.
As a long time Cards fan, I know that is not going to happen, but the line of thinking "we have to get value" is what is hurting the franchise. If a player is not producing, and Carp is not, its time to give a chance to a younger player.
His salary is gone one way or another, why have him continue to hurt the team?
So you are saying he "MIGHT" start hitting again, even though he has not figured out a way to hit the past 3 years, so you can dump him and get some money back in return. I am sure that is what the Cards are thinking, but its not going to work and we both know that. Carp is not magically going to start hitting, or teams stop shifting on him.Because if he manages to start hitting in the next month, you might manage to dump a good portion of that $18 million on someone else, instead of swallowing it?
Because he’s been a loyal Cardinal for ten years?
Because Lane Thomas, the next real prospect, needs some at bats at AAA to get his eye dialed in? And Dylan Carlson and Justin Williams haven’t (quite, in Carlson’s case) managed that in the majors yet?
Because you’re about to go through the exact same thing with Harrison Bader as you are with Carpenter?
I don’t expect them to hold onto him all season if he doesn’t start hitting. But they’re trying to get some ROI.
Dylan Carlson is figuring it out. Justin Williams is starting to figure it out. Given the Spring he had, I’d hardly be surprised if O’Neil settles on when Joe comes back, and stops pressing.We’re going to need to get a real nice corner outfield power hitter this coming offseason if we wanna truly be a contender for a World Series. We cannot have Paul Dejong hitting cleanup. Yesterday they threw away from Arenado to walk the bases loaded and Dejong goes up their and has probably the worst at bat I’ve ever seen. Half this team has absolutely no situational awareness and pitchers aren’t scared of them.
Martinez is so bad. His mental toughness rivals that of my two year old. You just know when things don’t go his way, he’ll unravel like an old knitted sweater. Carlson screws up and Martinez just gives in.
What a waste of talent.
It's crazy how long they've kept trying with him.
It’s because he’s so freaking talented that if he could actually get his head straight he’d dominate.
I’m sure they’ll let him walk and he’ll go on to dominate us for 5 more years.