*** Official IOWA STATE Vs #3 Kansas Game(Day) Thread ***

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  1. madguy30

    madguy30 Well-Known Member

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    Nah...it's just fun watching someone not get to the root of what they're saying.

    Like that ISU25/jereis dude who kept making the 'Prohm/Hoiberg obsession' argument when it wasn't even mentioned as a thing.
     
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    Tuco is trying to tell us that missed goaltend is a normal occurrence.

    That was one of the worst no-calls I've ever seen. It was obvious at full speed to everyone watching, including the announcers on TV mentioning it in real time.

    It didn't change the game much, no, but it was still absolutely pathetic. And is certainly not an everyday occurrence in many games. That's a braindead defense.
     
  3. randomfan44

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    That's childish. I dont keep a notebook by my couch writing down lists of grievances. I leave that to you guys.

    Ever seen a player jump up to block a shot and have his hand go through the net but not have it called? Yes, I have seen it multiple times. And I am sure that you have as well. I am also sure that you could probably only name the times where it was done by a Kansas player vs. Iowa State. It's part of your persecution complex.
     
  4. randomfan44

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    I 100% agree with this statement. It allows less physical teams to get away with a disproportionate amount of fouls. As a fan of a very physical team, it results in an artificial leveling of the playing field.
     
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  5. randomfan44

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    Agree that it was a bad miss. I dont recall if the refs made any effort to "make up for it" by calling a ticky tack foul afterwards or not. But make up calls absolutely get made all the time.

    The blatantly obvious out of bounds call in the KU vs. OU game where Self ran out and got a technical called on him was just as obvious of a mistake. That's the point. The refs miss stuff. Either they are watching something else at the time and get caught having to make a call they didnt see or they just flat out miss that something happened at all.

    Blatantly obvious calls are only blatantly obvious to us because we get to see the game through what the camera shows usandthen replays for us in slow motion multiple times. The refs arent watching through the same lens we are. Maybe the refs were looking for body contact or got caught a little behind the play and didnt see it; I dont know.
     
  6. randomfan44

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    That folks are still whining about the refs in a 20 point drubbing is classic ISU.
     
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    Pretty broad brush you're painting with.
     
  8. madguy30

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    Bolded is not the same as fouling a player and then hanging on the rim, and not getting the goal tending called. So, you said you've seen that, but you have no examples.

    Do you think this is a traveling violation?

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  9. randomfan44

    randomfan44 Well-Known Member

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    #529 randomfan44, Feb 20, 2020
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    After a missed basket interference call resulted in an LSU win over Kentucky last season, former referee John Clougherty was interviewed and said the following, "I've always felt, with the players as talented as they are, as much as they play above the rim, how many basket interference plays that happen that don't get called? I'd think probably a lot."

    No one here has any recollection of a missed basket interference by Iowa State's Hans Brase at Okie State in Jan 2018 with about 16 seconds left that resulted in Okie State not getting 2 points in a game that went to OT? Shocking...

    So yeah, it happens.
     
  10. Cat Stevens

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    actually, people are just telling you you’re a dumb ****.

    you could actually just be honest, and say hey it was a bad call. Instead you try to obfuscate with walls of words.

    there’s a reason your boys always lose in the tournament
     
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  11. randomfan44

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    Eh, I have stated that it was a bad call probably five times already. My argument is that there is no greater conspiracy to give KU that call. It's just a missed call like it is in other games, no more.
     
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    Always? Maybe fresh off 2 Elite Eights and a Final Four in 4 years isn't the time to talk about KU "always " losing early in the tourney.
     
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    Always one of my favorites...

     
  14. randomfan44

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    Exactly. I swear that ISU fans get a list of these at birth and links to the youtube videos. The dead ball three, the Niang/EJ foul and the Young/Withey foul switch.

    Never seen a fan base that thinks the world is out to screw them like the ISU fan base. Truly unique.
     
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  15. ImJustKCClone

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    What does it say about someone who infests the forums of a rival team to make sure nobody talks mean about "his" pet basketball team?
     
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    It's not unique. I mean KU fans think commentators are out to get them.
     
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    That’s ridiculous. Freedom of movement was created to level the playing field. To allow shooters rather than solely physical players to thrive. West Virginia and Kansas benefit the most by freedom of movement being limited.
     
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    Sort of like a fanbase that defends a player for picking up a stool to strike another player. After all he didn’t hit him with the stool and if the guy hadn’t stolen the ball it never would have happened. Keep getting the best players money will buy. Can’t wait to see how that program turns into UCLA when Self leaves.
     
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  19. randomfan44

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    Not sure where you came up with that but it is not accurate. It was created to allow better offensive players the ability to achieve their potential, thus making the game "more appealing to watch (aka higher scoring). The better teams have better player who, when not clutched and grabbed, would in theory achieve better results.

    What they found was that calling a ton of fouls didnt force players to adjust; it just made games unwatchable.
     
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  20. Cyclad

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    My apologizes. There is so much anti Prohm sentiment on here that I just assumed you were part of the “I hate Prohm and refuse to give him credit for anything he does well, while holding him to a standard higher than any previous clone coach” crowd.
     
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