****Official Class of 2021 Recruiting Thread****

Nader_uggghhh

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Bugs probably wasn't the answer but I will say losing TH really hurt Conditt. Having a PG that excelled at feeding the post made George a force. After TH went down it looked like he was trying to catch with his elbows. It's an art to place the ball where it's needed.
To me it seemed like their connection faded out shortly after conference play started. Tyrese is an amazing passer but he never came off screens very tight. I think George needs to improve his screening too.
 
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It was 10.5 games without Haliburton.

That is a little more than 32% of the season,

Roughly 350-400 offensive possessions.

The sample size for this judgement is adequate. It is not like I am using just 1-2 games.

Your solution... bring in a mediocre player from a mediocre team from a bad conference... just so we tick an antiquated “PG” box...

Well, I think your goal must be wanting to make us miss Holden, Beverly, and Nixon. Bringing in somebody that bad and potentially that much of a malcontent would not been good.
The 10.5 sample size is not adequate compared to 8 seasons of obvious data.

My solution to address an obvious need has some question marks but it's a better solution than bringing in a kid who was run off by a non P6 program, who doesn't address the obvious offensive need based on 2 seasons at that program and clearly didn't address the need for immediate defensive perimeter length (while compromising Prohm's stated desire to successfully switch all perimeter matchups).
 

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Maybe you should write Prohm and tell him how much he made a mistake in choosing Harris over buggs even though advanced statistics, his experience as a head coach at this level, basketball scheme and system knowledge, team personnel knowledge tells him differently...

He didn't even choose Harris over Buggs, he could have had both of those guys if he wanted. He only wanted one of them.
 
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The 10.5 sample size is not adequate compared to 8 seasons of obvious data.

My solution to address an obvious need has some question marks but it's a better solution than bringing in a kid who was run off by a non P6 program, who doesn't address the obvious offensive need based on 2 seasons at that program and clearly didn't address the need for immediate defensive perimeter length (while compromising Prohm's stated desire to successfully switch all perimeter matchups).

I lol'd at your point we shouldn't want Harris because he comes from the American while we should have wanted Buggs, who comes from the Big West. The American is a way superior conference to the Big West.

For context, the American was the #7 best conference nationally last year by SRS.

The Big West was #19.

Merrill Holden came from Louisiana Tech in C-USA. That was the #13 conference last year.
Jeff Beverly came from UT-San Antonio, which is also in C-USA.
Prentiss Nixon came from Colorado State in the Mountain West, which was the #9 conference last year.

Buggs is from a conference that is a step down even the weak conferences those guys came from.

Your "obvious need" is only obvious if you have a mentality about basketball offenses appropriate for decades long gone. It is not even a correct reading of how Prohm prefers to use his PGs.

A Prohm PG is not just a "distributor," but a high-usage guy actively looking to create for himself and others. Canaan and Payne led his Murray State teams in usage and scoring. Prohm converted Monté from a distributor who mostly deferred to Niang and the other scorers on the roster to a high-usage combo guard and who led the team in scoring his senior year, even over powerful offensive threats like Naz, Burton, and Matt hunting their own shots.

Nick was used aggressively, and so was Haliburton, in this role. And so was Bolton, who I would probably guess is going to do the most initiating and creation for us on offense next year.

I have no idea how you think a guy who wasn't very good in the Big West and absolutely cannot shoot (his 35.6% TS against Top 100 foes and 15.0% against Top 50 foes are just obscene) is going to fix any problems for us.
 

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He didn't even choose Harris over Buggs, he could have had both of those guys if he wanted. He only wanted one of them.

For the record, I agree with you. I was responding to the posters note on Prohm should’ve taken buggs over Harris.
 
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Harris is comparable to Donovan Jackson & LW in terms of skill set. Buggs is comparable to NWB in terms of skill set.

After losing to Milwaukee in Hilton during the 2017-18 season, Prohm had to turn to NWB at PG to save the offense. Same logic applies this season. I highly question Prohm has a NWB type on the roster to bail him out. Buggs would have been that guy moreso than Harris.

but 'skill and 'skill set' are not the same thing... you can possess a skill set but not be very skilled at it. I do trust Prohm's player evaluation, hope he can get the team playing better, after seeing the KenPom rankings and a lot of young players it could be brutal
 

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Sure - i hope prohm can work his magic with Harris and he can be a serviceable p5 PG. i had similar hopes for Nixon and was let down. Prohm is good with PGs but he’s not batting 1000


Agree with you on Nixon. Let’s be honest though, no coach bats 1000 with recruits. Prohm track record for getting PGs to the league should speak for itself though.
 
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Interesting to hear Javon talk about being a point guard in practice, as well as creating for his teammates.
I figured that Prohm would be “manufacturing” a point guard this year (until Hunter gets here), unless Walker was ready. With a stiff knee, apparently that’s not the case.

Didn’t we hear whispers about Johnson at point last season?
 
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I think it's more accurate to say Javan J will facilitate some from the wing.

Seems like it was a focus for him to develop those skills in his sit out year. I'd think it's a stretch to call him a point guard though.
 
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I think it's more accurate to say Javan J will facilitate some from the wing.

Seems like it was a focus for him to develop those skills in his sit out year. I'd think it's a stretch to call him a point guard though.
I think he will play the Royce White Point Forward roll. He won't be Royce White but I think he will start and run the offense through out the game.
 

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