Huh? See my latest post. I guess if you are just going off of last season's Top 25?
****Official Class of 2017 Recruiting Thread****
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Huh? See my latest post. I guess if you are just going off of last season's Top 25?
Holden and Bowie are decent for grad transfers. Usually all the big time transfers are sit out guys. There are couple big time gets for grad transfers but never many. This year Jordan Mathews was probably the biggest.
This, and Kosongo had solid Power 5 offers too.
Plus last year going into the year it looked like the established starters were set (or at least a majority of the minutes) with Monte, Naz, Matt, Burton and Malou and Jackson/Babb plus the incoming freshman. Snagging the quality of transfers of Bowie and Holden with that competition for minutes is pretty impressive IMO. Most players want to transfer to a program with a clear path to minutes.
Don't know how you can declare those guys a good returning core when either they haven't played D1 or they have and haven't done much on the court? that is a bit premature.
Obviously it's early but I'd withhold judgement on calling that a "good core" when not one of those players has really proven anything at the D1 level.
Edit: Should have read all of the new posts because I basically just echoed the post above me. My bad y'all.
Yep, I think any dream of Sexton, Weatherspoon, or Perry is over. Looks like Wright is the top realistic target at pg.
Consideration for Andrew White. I saw somewhere he may end up at Michigan State/Syracuse.
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Ya but for us we didn't need any wing/guards, we needed size. We got exactly what we needed.
Didn't say we needed him I said he was probably the big time grad transfer of this year. Holden and Bowie weren't big time grad transfers. They were nice pieces though and getting seniors that have experience and can fill a whole are very valuable and that is why they were some decent teams inquiring about them. That doesn't make them big time transfers.
"big time" can be taken in many ways. I think it most definitely is subjective varying from team to team. I think both of those guys can be thought of as "big time" grad transfers for Iowa State because we NEEDED front court depth. Would analysts call them the "big time" transfers of the off-season? No, probably not.
Michigan State/Syracuse are teams that need shooting from the wing. White is looking for a situation where he can come in and play 25+ minutes at the 2-3 next year. ISU with Morris, Jackson, Naz, Matt, Babb, Bowie and Burton wasn't an realistic option. Not to mention ISU schollys were already filled when White announced his transfer.
I'm not saying that White isn't a "bigger" name but for ISU and his needs isn't a fit and shouldn't be counted as miss by the staff.
Don't get me wrong, I like the guys we've brought in but they are more the under the radar type of guys, the WV is the only impressive offer of those lists IMO. Not "flashy" names who put up big numbers at their old schools. They are both perfect fits with exactly what we needed this year.
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True they aren't proven player, but by the 2017/18 season that group of 7 players will have something like 15 years of JUCO or D1 experience at Iowa State or another P5 school. I am significantly more confident, the bulk of our playing time in 2017/18 will come from that group of 7 returning players than the HS recruits we sign this fall. IMO Sexton may be the only recruit who could play 30+ mpg his freshman year. All the other HS kids we are recruiting seem like 10-15 mpg kids as freshman. IMO that is not a bad thing, as I feel our returning players will be solid.
You are entitled to your opinion, we'll see what time tells.
True they aren't proven player, but by the 2017/18 season that group of 7 players will have something like 15 years of JUCO or D1 experience at Iowa State or another P5 school. I am significantly more confident, the bulk of our playing time in 2017/18 will come from that group of 7 returning players than the HS recruits we sign this fall. IMO Sexton may be the only recruit who could play 30+ mpg his freshman year. All the other HS kids we are recruiting seem like 10-15 mpg kids as freshman. IMO that is not a bad thing, as I feel our returning players will be solid.
You are entitled to your opinion, we'll see what time tells.
Prohm know's how to win. 31 wins, or whatever it was is not something to be taken lightly in any division. I'm suspending judgement until I see what happens.
No doubt he does. He's a good coach, I have no concerns about that.
He just has to make sure he can keep replacing the talent at the same level or higher than what Fred left him.
The vast majority of coaches if not all know how to win they just can't recruit at a high enough level to win. That is the problem many fear. It isn't an X's and O's fear.
Its a heck of a lot easier to win with top 100 talent.
For all the people saying Holden wasn't a "big time" grad transfer...please give me a couple of names you would have preferred instead to come in to fill minutes at the 5. Holden is a plus athlete in a 6 foot 9 frame that can get up and down the floor in a year that we are going to play extremely small/fast. The guy is a freak athlete which is exactly what we needed. I can't wait for him to throw down his first monster alley oop from Monte in primetime well see just how not "flashy" he is then.
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Uhhhh, I can name a lot of coaches that can recruit like crazy but can't coach a lick...
