Reminder this is a guy who posted ‘I hate this team’ less than 12 hours ago.JFC goods teams lay eggs all the time. This just in.... we aren't built like Houston.
Reminder this is a guy who posted ‘I hate this team’ less than 12 hours ago.JFC goods teams lay eggs all the time. This just in.... we aren't built like Houston.
Name another team we are competing with for a 3 that has losses as bad as Kansas St and Oklahoma State.JFC goods teams lay eggs all the time. This just in.... we aren't built like Houston.
JFC, that’s the point-we aren’t Houston. It wasn’t long ago that we were viewed above or similar.JFC goods teams lay eggs all the time. This just in.... we aren't built like Houston.
Isn't every team a sum of its parts, Houston lost their best player from last season, their go to guy in the clutch and they just find another. Who is our go to guy? The season is almost over and we still have not found that person that we can rely on for a basket when we need it. Hell Gilbert had the ball at the top of the key in OT, plenty of time to make a play, and he dribbles around and then tosses it over to Milan with 2 seconds left. Either drive the hoop or give him the ball earlier so he has at least got a chance. We are a team that when the outside shot is falling like against Arizona we are fantastic, when they are not falling we struggle to get and make shots.
Name another team we are competing with for a 3 that has losses as bad as Kansas St and Oklahoma State.
It wasn't just that we lost, we were throughly outplayed by 2 teams under .500.
JFC, that’s the point-we aren’t Houston. It wasn’t long ago that we were viewed above or similar.
Yes, middle of the pack teams do lay eggs, yet can win a game or two in the NCAA. That’s the type of team we’ve become.
That’s good for this program, particularly for the NIL era, but a clear fall from the preseason sentiment…or even the mid-January viewpoint
Just landed im Dallas and looked at box score. How in the f$%^ do ypu turn a team over 29 times lose?
People who are supposed to know about basketball looked at ISU and made them pre-season #5. Why has ISU become a middle of the pack team? Why should ISU be more mentally/physically exhausted than any other Big 12 team going through the grind? I don't have the answers, but if things don't turn around, the ISU coaching staff needs to find some answers to those questions.JFC, that’s the point-we aren’t Houston. It wasn’t long ago that we were viewed above or similar.
Yes, middle of the pack teams do lay eggs, yet can win a game or two in the NCAA. That’s the type of team we’ve become.
That’s good for this program, particularly for the NIL era, but a clear fall from the preseason sentiment…or even the mid-January viewpoint
I was hoping we'd have a deeper rotation this year. Obviously that hasn't materialized.
How common is it for major-conference teams to play 9+ guys serious minutes? Is that a common thing? Just looking at some top teams this year, number of guys who average 6+ minutes per game and have missed no more than 10 games:
Auburn: 9
Duke: 10
Houston: 8
Tennessee: 8
Florida: 8
St Johns: 10
Alabama: 9
Michigan State: 10
Texas Tech: 8
Iowa State: 8
Clemson: 9
Wisconsin: 9
Maryland: 9
Obviously we don't have the depth of some of these teams.
Michigan State is interesting, no one averages more than 26 minutes, and they only have one player averaging more than 23 minutes.
If we'd have pulled it out, the answer to "how do you lose when you outrebound the other team by 30" would have been "you turn it over 29 times"You get outrebounded by 30.
Trolls? You're the one making all the excuses. Yes, we've had injury and illness issues. No, that shouldn't make you lose at home by 18 or be non-competitive against a 6-12 team on the road.How do you trolls completely ignore how this team was playing prior to injuries? That's the discussion.
Their ceiling might be S16 only with a perfect draw. They just don't have the offensive consistency and toughness down low to be confident in March. Teams that go on long scoring droughts multiple times per game and give up tons of rebounds don't fare well.I'm glad i went to bed at halftime. Getting outrebounded 2 to 1 is 100% due to lack of effort. This team's ceiling is Sweet 16, unless they get a lucky draw.
This is an honest question because I haven't watched a ton of games outside the Big 12 this year. We still have a Top 30 offense.Their ceiling might be S16 only with a perfect draw. They just don't have the offensive consistency and toughness down low to be confident in March. Teams that go on long scoring droughts multiple times per game and give up tons of rebounds don't fare well.
ISU women were #8.People who are supposed to know about basketball looked at ISU and made them pre-season #5. Why has ISU become a middle of the pack team? Why should ISU be more mentally/physically exhausted than any other Big 12 team going through the grind? I don't have the answers, but if things don't turn around, the ISU coaching staff needs to find some answers to those questions.
You missed one hell of a game.I'm glad i went to bed at halftime. Getting outrebounded 2 to 1 is 100% due to lack of effort. This team's ceiling is Sweet 16, unless they get a lucky draw.
Long and athletic teams are kryptonite for this team. The guards struggle vs length, and the bigs struggle vs athletic guys in the paint. Athletic includes footspeed too - the only guy on this team I'd call fast is Keyshon.That said, clearly our floor is lower than anticipated. This team has limitations. It’s not elite in talent and lacks some length/athleticism
Herein lies the problem—this is not the gameplan. We can only assume the coaching staff is trying everything it can to prevent the players from doing this. Otz has talked about ball movement before. But injuries and illnesses preventing guys not only from playing in games but also from practicing is still affecting the team. They don't quite trust each other on passes, and aren't on the same wavelength as far as ball-handlers-not-named-Lipsey and anyone off the ball. Don't take my word for it, everyone should watch the CF video of Otz’s postgame responses. He made no excuses, but said their success early in the season was almost entirely the result of guys "earning it" on the practice court. But in recent months they have not had a full cast in practice, the implication being they haven't been able to "earn it," i.e., extensively prepare to perform at their best in games. We can say "They should be fresh, then!" or "Practices aren't that useful,“ but it's hard to repeatedly plug guys into games who haven't necessarily practiced at full speed—or at all—with the other guys you want to play big minutes.TJ's first three teams had an identity: defensive intensity, live-ball turnovers and scoring in transition. This year we've gotten away from that, it seems like the intention is to make our hay in half-court offense by out-talenting and out-shotmaking opponents, and we just haven't been able to do that consistently against good teams or in some cases even against bad teams.
I'm glad i went to bed at halftime. Getting outrebounded 2 to 1 is 100% due to lack of effort. This team's ceiling is Sweet 16, unless they get a lucky draw.
I can name a lot of teams that would love to be in ISU's position being a program with great fan support, nationally relevant, making sweet 16 runs (and hopefully advancing further soon!!), multiple conference tournament titles, etcName another team we are competing with for a 3 that has losses as bad as Kansas St and Oklahoma State.
It wasn't just that we lost, we were throughly outplayed by 2 teams under .500.
I guess I would push back against a “middle of the pack team” as they were #10 in the AP on Monday and have been a #2 or #3 seed in any reputable mock bracket. They are similar to Texas Tech, Arizona and BYU which is probably a #3 seed, #4 seed and #5 seed respectively. When did a #3 or #4 seed in the tournament become “middle of the pack.”People who are supposed to know about basketball looked at ISU and made them pre-season #5. Why has ISU become a middle of the pack team? Why should ISU be more mentally/physically exhausted than any other Big 12 team going through the grind? I don't have the answers, but if things don't turn around, the ISU coaching staff needs to find some answers to those questions.