New ESPN Ranking for Lazard

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  1. CyTwins

    CyTwins Well-Known Member

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    • Iowa State -WR Allen Lazard (Urbandale, Iowa/Urbandale) climbs to No. 149 from No. 224: Our concern with Lazard was that he had some of the same deficiencies that Northwestern's Kyle Prater did coming out, but the reality is that while there are similarities, Lazard is more flexible and sudden, which gives him bigger upside to develop as a route runner. Don't count out Lazard, an Iowa State commit, as a flex-WR/H-back from the slot, a position he played and looked very good in at The Opening.

    Football Recruiting - Allen Lazard - Player Profiles - ESPN
     
  2. CyTwins

    CyTwins Well-Known Member

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  3. Illiniclone

    Illiniclone Member

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    Fact of the matter is rankings don't matter once you step on campus. He'll have a lot of people doubting how good he is and I'm sure it'll make him hungrier to prove those people wrong.
     
  4. RustShack

    RustShack Well-Known Member

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    Is it normal for there to be a ranking so different between Rivals and ESPN?
     
  5. cyclonebillski

    cyclonebillski Well-Known Member

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    Hes got the chance to be a 5* on Rivals and a probable 3* by by espn. Makes perfect sense. Cant help but think his commitment to ISU hurt him with ESPN.
     
  6. CyTwins

    CyTwins Well-Known Member

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  7. ISUCubswin

    ISUCubswin Well-Known Member

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    This is true. A commitment to any school more prestigious, and I have no doubt he would've been higher. But, it's part of being an Iowa State fan. Gotta prove people wrong, it's our job.
     
  8. Tre4ISU

    Tre4ISU Well-Known Member

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    For a guy like Lazard? Yes. For a guy like Dupree? Probably not.

    He just climbed almost 80 spots. Cripes.
     
  9. Daserop

    Daserop Well-Known Member

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    The No. 224 best to number #149 is for all player / all positions or is that just WR?
     
  10. megamanxzero35

    megamanxzero35 Well-Known Member

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    He's a 4 star on ESPN along with Rivals. What are you talking about?
     
  11. theCyBooty

    theCyBooty Member

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    How is Lazard a probably 3 star by ESPN when they have him a 4 star and in their top 150 and they have more than 400 players ranked as 4 stars?
     
  12. megamanxzero35

    megamanxzero35 Well-Known Member

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    Overall. 20th best WR.
     
  13. Cpech56

    Cpech56 Active Member

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    Rankings dont mean a damn thing. Someones gotta get him the ball and for that to happen its gonna take a solid line, qb and good blocking rbs. Cant wait to watch him put on the Cyclone jersey.
     
  14. rholtgraves

    rholtgraves Well-Known Member

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    Either way he is a consensus top 20 WR and a consensus 4 star.
     
  15. ribsnwhiskey

    ribsnwhiskey Well-Known Member

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    The guy they're comparing him to was rated higher by both ESPN and Rivals, and he has 11 total catches in 2 years, with no touchdowns.
     
  16. peteypie

    peteypie Well-Known Member

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    So they are comparing him to Prater, and saying he doesn't have the same defeceincies as him, which by my comprehension means he might be a little better than him. Well why was Prater the number 1 receiver and number 3 overall recruit, and Lazard is number 149?
     
  17. mtowncyclone13

    mtowncyclone13 Well-Known Member

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    knowing our luck he'll break his leg skiing this winter or something.
     
  18. Clark

    Clark Well-Known Member

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    #18 Clark, Jul 30, 2013
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2013
    I would think that answers the question

    edit: what I mean by that is they obviously assumed things about Prater that didn't pan out and see some of those qualities in Lazard. That doesn't mean anything for Lazard's future as a player but I understand the ranking.
     
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  19. CyTwins

    CyTwins Well-Known Member

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    Prater was the #9 WR and #45 overall according to ESPN

    Football Recruiting - Kyle Prater - Player Profiles - ESPN
     
  20. WhatchaGonnaDo

    WhatchaGonnaDo Well-Known Member

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    Wow thanks *** hat
     

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