Neither Barnes nor Montgomery make B12 first team?

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  1. surly

    surly Well-Known Member

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    I fully believe that Montgomery throwing a punch in the Baylor game pulled him from any consideration of being 1st team.
     
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    Who is Barnes? Do you mean Butler?
     
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    the guy who ran for 184 and 1 TD against us this past weekend.
     
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    He’s too 80’s RB.
     
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    Sounds like he better stay another year then. ;)
     
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    I don't think Barnes or Montgomery had amazing seasons but both had better years than Hill and Pooka. Hill was a no show in some big games.
     
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    You can make a very legit argument that the 1st and 2nd team RBs could easily be reversed. Pooka in particular, has a great skill set and is dangerous as a runner and receiver, but I wouldn't take him as an every down back over either of the 2nd teamers.
     
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  11. SeaClone

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    Barnes should have made it over Hill. Can't really argue with Pooka. Statistically, Montgomery and Hill are fairly indistinguishable, and (thus far) they have both missed a similar amount of time due to injury/canceled game.
     
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    Pooka wasn't even the best RB on Kansas against us. The other KU back played more and did better against us.
     
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    Pooka went for 252 and 2 TDs versus Oklahoma. Even though OU's defense if terrible, I guarantee that was a huge factor. He also put up really good numbers on a bad KU team.

    However, if you were to ask coaches which running back they'd take on their team first, I'd be surprised if it wasn't Montgomery or Barnes
     
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  14. Die4Cy

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    By definition, a award of this type that puts Pooka Williams ahead of David Montgomery is worthless and nobody should waste their time complaining about it.
     
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  15. RonBurgundy

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    You do realize the coaches voted on this?

    I assume it was a combination of a token rep to an improved KU team and a reflection of David losing his cool and getting into the fight that factored in.
     
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    Hakeem Butler is 2nd team?
     
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    Butler was for me the worst snub on our team. I’m going to really miss watching him when he’s done. I think Montgomery deserved it still, but statistically I’m not surprised even though every single yard he earned this year was hard earned.
     
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    Did the coaches just look at YPC for eveyone and then vote? Because thats the only statistic I can see where those two are better than Barnes and Montgomery.
     
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    Barnes ability to shoot a basketball should have put him on the first team over any of the others that only play football
     
  20. intrepid27

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    If you follow this board you know it was due to our lack of Offensive Coordinator that kept Montgomery and Butler off first team. I guess they are too un-coordinated. Boda- Bing!!
     
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