Nebraska gives Scott Frost much deserved extension

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I do find this Frost thing interesting. How does a person go from being a wunderkind with a high ceiling to a complete trainwreck?

This happens in sports and work and everywhere in between (Prohm). Just odd how circumstances play such a part in success.

Tom Osbourne couldn't have won at ISU with the support he had.

When they hired Frost, I thought crap, Nebraska is going to be good again. THen complete train wreck. Like what happened and how?
 

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When they hired Frost, I thought crap, Nebraska is going to be good again. THen complete train wreck. Like what happened and how?
They haven't been good enough up front, and Martinez is a multi year starter who can't throw a football.
 
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I do find this Frost thing interesting. How does a person go from being a wunderkind with a high ceiling to a complete trainwreck?

This happens in sports and work and everywhere in between (Prohm). Just odd how circumstances play such a part in success.

Tom Osbourne couldn't have won at ISU with the support he had.
perhaps he wasnt solely responsible for the successes at UCF? maybe he just had some key players, staff, and a culture that worked then and there. maybe he was just in the right place at the right time.

and just transplanting "him" doesnt transplant the success?

also, UNLs culture right now and for the last decade plus has been trash. the players are just as self righteous and arrogant as their fans. its a really hard thing to turn around.
 
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They haven't been good enough up front, and Martinez is a multi year starter who can't throw a football.
I was flabbergasted in a bunch of preseason QB rankings and how high they all had Martinez. The kid can't throw the ball to save his life. I kept wondering if we were talking about the same Martinez.
 

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They haven't been good enough up front, and Martinez is a multi year starter who can't throw a football.
its the QB situation that baffles me. at some point you have to recruit over him if he isnt improving (which he hasnt).

pretty sure he is a 4 year starter. unless you are a doormat football school, there is no way you should have a 4 year starter at QB that is this bad.
 
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its the QB situation that baffles me. at some point you have to recruit over him if he isnt improving (which he hasnt).

pretty sure he is a 4 year starter. unless you are a doormat football school, there is no way you should have a 4 year starter at QB that is this bad.

They had a chance at Joey Burrow and passed on him.
 

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its the QB situation that baffles me. at some point you have to recruit over him if he isnt improving (which he hasnt).

pretty sure he is a 4 year starter. unless you are a doormat football school, there is no way you should have a 4 year starter at QB that is this bad.
He isn't great but sadly, he's all the have offensively. Bielema said as much in the post game, #2 was the only guy they were afraid of. He isn't great but he's hands down their best player. They just ask way too much of him and rarely does playcalling line up with his strengths.

QB play isn't great but they have a laundry list of other issues that are being overshadowed by Martinez's struggles. Their best WR is Oliver Martin....they have no run game, special teams are disaster, sub par LB/DB play, no depth....that program is in shambles. A new qb might help but it's not going to make much of a difference, they are still in a total rebuild.
 

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Under Frost...

12-21 overall
9-18 conf
1-8 vs. ranked teams

does not have a winning record against any team he has played more than once in conf...

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Ohio State
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Iowa
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Wisconsin
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Indiana
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Michigan
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Minnesota
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Northwestern
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Purdue
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Illinois
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Maryland
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Michigan State
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Penn State
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Rutgers
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perhaps he wasnt solely responsible for the successes at UCF? maybe he just had some key players, staff, and a culture that worked then and there. maybe he was just in the right place at the right time.

and just transplanting "him" doesnt transplant the success?

also, UNLs culture right now and for the last decade plus has been trash. the players are just as self righteous and arrogant as their fans. its a really hard thing to turn around.
And they think HCMC will jump at the opportunity to go there, right?
 
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I know coaches have different gameplans for different opponents but Frost is really telling people that at no point this summer did he practice against a four man front? I find that extremely hard to believe given the the conference and division they play in.

So even if you didn't practice going against it specifically in the Illinois prep, I would imagine you'd have spent most of your summer practicing against it.

Maybe that's the problem, he spent all summer practicing against a 3 man front when most of his opponents will run 4 man fronts.
 
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The film room must have been locked.
What I wouldn't give to have a recording of his headset communication with his coordinator in the press box.

After the first play-

"Coach? What was that?"
"I don't know. It looked like they lined up with 4 guys on the line."
"4 Guys on the line?"
"Yeah, I think so."
"How can they do that? We're not prepared for that, coach! What are we going to do?"
"Relax... Maybe they made a mistake. Maybe it will be different on the next down"

After the second play

"Coach, they did it again!!!"
"Yeah, I saw it too."
"I'm panicking here, coach!"
"Calm down. We'll handle it. Do you see your playbook?"
"Yeah?"
"I want you to just rip half of the pages out and throw them away."
"Throw them away?"
"JUST DO WHAT I SAID!"
"...Ok, coach, I'm ripping out the pages."
"Things are going to be just fine..."
 

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Is Scott Frost going to give us another classic today? Fordham is going toe to toe with them so far.