NDSU BISON @ Iowa State University Cyclones

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Did not lose a starting TE. Vaadeland is back due to medical redshirt. Running backs split time and only one of 2 starters that each had over 1000 yards for two consecutive years was lost due to graduation. QB Wentz will be a winner, coachs love him, he is athletic and knows the system. He is ready to go, and yes will need more game experience to prove it. Lost 3 starters on the offfensive line to graduation. Biggest concern to me, but NDSU always has some capable guys for o-line.

You are losing 74% of your offense. Ouch! Wentz does appear capable. Crocket seems serviceable. Lets just see how that goes when he is running for his life, or is on his back. We know how that goes. Prepare for it.

The Bison are also looking for some defense as they are replacing 40% of the tackles made from last year.
 

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QB Wentz Davis/McGinnis
RB Crockett Frazier Morlock
FB BONNET
WR VRAA Wrice
WR Gebhart Woods
TE Vaadeland
OT Haeg
OG Schueller
C Hinz
OG Lechler
OT Plankers

DE Hardie
DT Scheatz
DT Tanguay
DE Emanuel
LB Beck
MLB Littlejohn
LB Thorton
CB CJ SMITH
CB CHAMPION
SS DUDZIK
FS HEAGLE

These are projected starters

I've done this 3 dang times now. NDSU DEPTH CHART

Our beat writer is a 5 2 pud who doesn't know squat.
NDSU will beat ISU just like K state Kansas Colo St and Minnesota twice!! You fans are a total repeat of all these other fanbases.
 
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I've done this 3 dang times now. NDSU DEPTH CHART

Our beat writer is a 5 2 pud who doesn't know squat.
NDSU will beat ISU just like K state Kansas Colo St and Minnesota twice!! You fans are a total repeat of all these other fanbases.

How is that a depth chart? Unless NDSU has no depth...
 

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I'm getting to the point where I don't even give a rip if we beat NDSU anymore. I just want their fanboys to go away. This thread is exhausting.
 

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This causes me to chuckle (alot). Over the last few months, I periodically go over to the Bisonville football forum and read their fans comments about our upcoming game. (I am sure that a fair number of Bison fans come over to CF to read the comments of this posting.)

Here is the deal. As near as I can figure, about every third or fourth Bison poster basically states some version of the following: " Iowa State has one of the worst teams in all of major college football. " " Few teams in college football have won less games than Iowa State. " "Iowa States' football team is flat out bad and their loser fans don't seem to even realize how bad they actually are."

So then ponder this. I would say that the Bison better damn well win this game then. What is the true worth of three consecutive FCS championships if it is bracketed on both ends by losses to "one of the worst teams in all of major college football." All the pressure is on NDSU (it would seem to me). Three national titles bracketed with losses to Iowa State.

Now that is funny..........



Well that won't be the case. Considering the loss at ISU was in 2009. Then in 2010 NDSU won at KU then lost in the quarterfinals at Eastern Washington. NDSU has won 4 straight vs FBS schools. As impressive as it is to beat the FBS teams when they play, they don't mean as much as the wins in Frisco in January!
 

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Ok, I am going to actually ask a football related question.. as I dont know much about ISU football. I know there is a QB battle between Grant Rohach or Sam Richardson. Do they play with similiar styles.. or is one more a running QB, as the other is a pocket passer?
 

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Ok, I am going to actually ask a football related question.. as I dont know much about ISU football. I know there is a QB battle between Grant Rohach or Sam Richardson. Do they play with similiar styles.. or is one more a running QB, as the other is a pocket passer?
To be honest, both are similar. I believe Sam was more of the passer and Grant was a little more nervous in the pocket so he ran more. The thing is we do not know their true potential since MESSingham was our coordinator. He coached our quarterbacks and that was nothing but a train wreck. Our old coordinator made everything complicated and so our whole offense was messed up. So to be honest, we don't know and will not know until the first game.
 

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Well that won't be the case. Considering the loss at ISU was in 2009. Then in 2010 NDSU won at KU then lost in the quarterfinals at Eastern Washington. NDSU has won 4 straight vs FBS schools. As impressive as it is to beat the FBS teams when they play, they don't mean as much as the wins in Frisco in January!

It's still FCS...
 

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It's still FCS...


It still doesn't matter. A title at the highest division you can get to at that time is still impressive. NDSU has only been up for what 10 years? Have a three straight titles. It's not like they have been in that division for 50 years and finally won a title. They wouldn't be able to make a jump for another 10 years anyway, at the earliest. But within 5 years the landscape of the divisions is going to be so different that it won't matter. I don't get the fact that some fans think well were here so that makes us better. So there are teams that are FBS, guess what, they don't win. Don't win but 2-3 games a year, don't compete for conference titles for multiple decades in a row. Some are Basketball schools and don't have as strong as a football program. But if that's fine and being content just being there is what it's about then I am sure NDSU will pass. They would only move in future if they could sustain winning and being competitive to keep it's fan base and tradition.
 

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It still doesn't matter. A title at the highest division you can get to at that time is still impressive. NDSU has only been up for what 10 years? Have a three straight titles. It's not like they have been in that division for 50 years and finally won a title. They wouldn't be able to make a jump for another 10 years anyway, at the earliest. But within 5 years the landscape of the divisions is going to be so different that it won't matter. I don't get the fact that some fans think well were here so that makes us better. So there are teams that are FBS, guess what, they don't win. Don't win but 2-3 games a year, don't compete for conference titles for multiple decades in a row. Some are Basketball schools and don't have as strong as a football program. But if that's fine and being content just being there is what it's about then I am sure NDSU will pass. They would only move in future if they could sustain winning and being competitive to keep it's fan base and tradition.

Wow, that was insightful! Only move to new conference if guaranteed to win, got it.
 

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Wow, that was insightful! Only move to new conference if guaranteed to win, got it.

No, that's not it. They won't do it just to do it. They have to sustain strong competitive play in post season consistently now for another 4-5 years to prove that they can continue winning, revenue, recruiting, all aspects. They will make sure it works!
 

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Ok, I am going to actually ask a football related question.. as I dont know much about ISU football. I know there is a QB battle between Grant Rohach or Sam Richardson. Do they play with similiar styles.. or is one more a running QB, as the other is a pocket passer?

This is one of the things that perplexes me with respect to Bison posters. Carson Wentz has never started a game in his career yet many claim him to be better than Jensen and feel secure in this. One of our returning quarterbacks started eight games last season while the other started four, and Bison fans believe we have a quarterback problem. Both of our QBs have run a variation of the spread offense ever since they were in high school. One is a red shirt junior, the other a redshirt sophomore. They are nearly bookends in stature. One seems to be better with the run, the other may have an edge with the pass. People just cannot seem to grasp the notion that to detect some superior ability of one over the other is a difficult task. It's reported that their team mates are equally confident in either.

In an earlier post you mentioned the graduation of three offensive linemen. I assume these to be Turner, Colville and Gimmestad. Now I understand Johnson is lost for the season due to injury to go along with also graduated Jensen, Smith and Ojuri. This is seems to me to be a hugh loss of quality talent few teams are prepared to overcome. Though it's claimed that replacements have much game experience, but I have to ask what is the value of that experience when it came while you were hanging 50 points on nearly every opponent last year
 

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It still doesn't matter. A title at the highest division you can get to at that time is still impressive. NDSU has only been up for what 10 years? Have a three straight titles. It's not like they have been in that division for 50 years and finally won a title. They wouldn't be able to make a jump for another 10 years anyway, at the earliest. But within 5 years the landscape of the divisions is going to be so different that it won't matter. I don't get the fact that some fans think well were here so that makes us better. So there are teams that are FBS, guess what, they don't win. Don't win but 2-3 games a year, don't compete for conference titles for multiple decades in a row. Some are Basketball schools and don't have as strong as a football program. But if that's fine and being content just being there is what it's about then I am sure NDSU will pass. They would only move in future if they could sustain winning and being competitive to keep it's fan base and tradition.

You dakotans are in for a hard fall one of these days. And the way you talk **** here, on your own boards, on espn and other places, you are going to deserve it. So i guess, enjoy being the tallest midget for now.
 

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If NDSU is so gooooddddd, why not move into the FBS? Why don't you show us all up. I think that you need to get knocked off your high horse and realize Iowa State have 6-6 seasons because we are in one of the strongest conferences in the NATION! Now I would love to see you join the big 12 and brag about having a "winning tradition"....
 
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