Gotta be the red turf!Interesting. Thanks for the background info. When I was at Wazzu, Eastern was a college, and a small one at that. Didn't realize they'd busted out of their short-pants status so thoroughly.
Gotta be the red turf!Interesting. Thanks for the background info. When I was at Wazzu, Eastern was a college, and a small one at that. Didn't realize they'd busted out of their short-pants status so thoroughly.
Kind of like KU, but I guess theirs was a stadium that only had 10k with a track around it.That's cute, a stadium that fits maybe 10,000 and also has a track around it.
Not that most people care in Iowa care.. but I am going to answer your question.
The reason NDSU has not played _ND in football, is becaure our old AD was extremely miffed at that other school. It all started out when NDSU moved to FCS football and UND stayed D-II. There was an agreement, that the two teams would play each still though. NDSU needed these football games during the transition period. Pretty close to the first season of play, _ND decided not to honor their agreement and backed out causing big scheduling issues during our transition.
Fast forward to 4 yrs ago when _ND moved up to FCS, they assumed that the rivalry would start again. NDSU's AD was still miffed from before, so he pretty much told _ND to shove it.
As of now, _ND is a bottom feeder in another confernce. They kind of picked their posion in this aspect also, they could have been in the same conferences as us.. but they chose their own path. They also present no value in scheduling now.. since they insist on a home & home game. In reality, this is correct.. NDSU sold out every game in less than half a day this year. NDSU would rather schedule games against good FCS oppenants or FBS teams (to make money). Evidence would be, last week we scheduled a home and home with Eastern Washington (currently 1 or 2 depending in the polls in FCS).
The day that school (which I beleive will be soon according to some media) _ND agrees to play at NDSU two games, the rivalry may continue. As of now of course, the only dates available for both teams are 2015, 2018, 2019.
There used to be hatred between the schools, and I think it has only grown since all this has taken place. As you can see.. I dispise that schools so much I can't even put their whole name.. that is why it is _ND and there is no U there.
Not that most people care in Iowa care.. but I am going to answer your question.
The reason NDSU has not played _ND in football, is becaure our old AD was extremely miffed at that other school. It all started out when NDSU moved to FCS football and UND stayed D-II. There was an agreement, that the two teams would play each still though. NDSU needed these football games during the transition period. Pretty close to the first season of play, _ND decided not to honor their agreement and backed out causing big scheduling issues during our transition.
Fast forward to 4 yrs ago when _ND moved up to FCS, they assumed that the rivalry would start again. NDSU's AD was still miffed from before, so he pretty much told _ND to shove it.
As of now, _ND is a bottom feeder in another confernce. They kind of picked their posion in this aspect also, they could have been in the same conferences as us.. but they chose their own path. They also present no value in scheduling now.. since they insist on a home & home game. In reality, this is correct.. NDSU sold out every game in less than half a day this year. NDSU would rather schedule games against good FCS oppenants or FBS teams (to make money). Evidence would be, last week we scheduled a home and home with Eastern Washington (currently 1 or 2 depending in the polls in FCS).
The day that school (which I beleive will be soon according to some media) _ND agrees to play at NDSU two games, the rivalry may continue. As of now of course, the only dates available for both teams are 2015, 2018, 2019.
There used to be hatred between the schools, and I think it has only grown since all this has taken place. As you can see.. I dispise that schools so much I can't even put their whole name.. that is why it is _ND and there is no U there.
I get the hate that NDSU has for UND but with the ever shifting landscape of college athletics I'm a believer that UND picked the correct route. Sure they are struggling at the FCS level right now but when the switch happened from D2 to 1AA UND was by far the better program at the time and there's nothing stopping that from happening again. The Alerus center is a great facility and with D1 Hockey they have a strong overall athletic program.
The reason I say that UND picked the correct route is that they joined a whole athletics conference. They play every team in their conference in every sport. If there are massive changes coming they may not have to make any changes as they are already in a stable all sport conference. Where as NDSU only plays certain teams in certain sports. Sure there are some overlaps with SDSU, USD, but that's about it. If changes are coming NDSU will be fine and land somewhere but to be upset at UND for picking the more stable route after NDSU already made their change is crazy.
Interesting. Thanks for the background info. When I was at Wazzu, Eastern was a college, and a small one at that. Didn't realize they'd busted out of their short-pants status so thoroughly.
You mean like Iowa and ISU fans wanted to do to UNI and Drake in mbb?HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
You are running from a bad FCS team that shares your state and won't play them without a 2 for 1? REALLY? YOU ARE THAT SCARED OF UND IT NEEDS TO BE 2 FOR 1?????
Their hockey accompishments mean 10x what your FCS titles do. Sucks to hear that truth huh? Name some good NFL players you have produced to offset their NHL talent if the two are similar...
PATHETIC MAN HOW CAN YOU THINK ITS OK TO DEMAND 2 FOR 1! You need a 2 for 1 to play a terrible team in the same state where you can make the game a neutral site one effectively if you buy out their season tickets?
What is wrong with your cowardly school and fanbase? How do your run from the Sioux?
Its probably because they play big time hockey and actually have a program that matters while you settle for dominating second teir CFB.
Shameful that you think its OK to demand a 2 for 1 from an instate school. Embarrassing!!!! And you agree with it and admit it. Even the hawkeyes aren't that cowardly and pathetic to demand 2 for 1 from their instate rival.
Wow....
And still no one would have cared.Yes, they are #2 in the this years coaches poll, and in some polls they are actually ahead of NDSU and #1. Also, we kind of have a hatred to Eastern Washington.. they knocked us out of the playoffs 4 yrs ago on a crap call in OT in the Semifinals. Had we won that game, more than likely we would be 4-time FCS champions.
Yes, they are #2 in the this years coaches poll, and in some polls they are actually ahead of NDSU and #1. Also, we kind of have a hatred to Eastern Washington.. they knocked us out of the playoffs 4 yrs ago on a crap call in OT in the Semifinals. Had we won that game, more than likely we would be 4-time FCS champions.
I am not upset at them for doing what they had to do. I am was stating what happened. _ND also moved up the same time as University of South Dakota.. they were going to be partners in everything. USD joined up with fellow D-II members, and realized what was best for them. My true point was they could have been in the same conference, and there would be no need for all the mess behind the scenes of scheduling and trying to get the games played.
You mean like Iowa and ISU fans wanted to do to UNI and Drake in mbb?
The scheduling "mess" is very small factor in the long term decision for the future of an athletics department. UND got an invite to the Big Sky and they took it. I can about guarantee you if USD and SDSU had the oppurtunity to join all sports conferences they would have as well. UND ended up in a much better all around conference and I am guessing that USD wishes they would have ended up there as well.