NCAA reacts to california athlete compensation bill

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  1. SECyclone

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    And most leave with a free education plus extras thrown in. People forget it’s a small % that go pro and not entering the workforce.
     
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    It could hurt parity. If you can make more money sitting on the bench at Texas than you can starting all 4 years at ISU it's gonna be a problem. It could be similar to having 95+ scholarships.
     
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    Again, it's not about the notion of being compensated at all, it's about the freedom to maximize your compensation. It's capitalism. The NCAA artificially caps what schools can offer athletes, and then restricts them from getting any other compensation. That's fundamentally unfair, and wouldn't fly in literally any other industry. Shoot, it doesn't even fly elsewhere within the university system, where other students on scholarship, are free to make money doing other things, even the very thing that they are going to school for. A student on a band scholarship is free to make as much money as they can playing an instrument outside of school, for example. The only reason that the NCAA has the power, is because they control the primary path to the "professional" leagues.
     
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    The money is there because the butts are in the seats and the eyeballs on the screens, not because 5* John Thunderdunker is wearing the jersey for the Wildcats this year.

    People are still going to show when Mr. Thunderdunker is playing for the Medicine Hat Poutines before going in the second-round of the NBA draft the next season and we are all watching the pipsqueak dude from western Nebraska play ball.

    College sports fans care about the college, not the talent/players like pro fans.

    Let the guys who want to be pros be pros and give me the guys who want to be student-athletes. People will still be coming to Ames even without the future draft picks.
     
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    #65 Mr Janny, Jun 24, 2019
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    Meh, some might go that route, sure. But if the NFL/NBA is still the ultimate goal, I imagine there will be plenty of guys who would be happy to be the big fish in a small pond and get playing time. Look at Allen Lazard. Would he have made more money off of his likeness going to college in Ames Iowa or Alabama? I don't know. It's probably close. There's more money at Bama, but he'd be a way bigger celebrity, here. Not every kid is going to pick Bama in that scenario.

    Also, parity is not a word that should ever be used when discussing big time college athletics. Nobody is concerned about parity. Parity was taken out behind the barn and shot with a rifle a long time ago.
     
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  6. Cyclone.TV

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    There's plenty of money around ISU to get some top talent - they may even get MORE top talent to go there. Top talent isn't gonna go sit on the bench at Texas when they can go play for someone else, like ISU.
     
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    Not to be difficult but how about we end all of those perks the student athlete gets for tuition, room, board, and stipends.

    Then let's have the student athletes get paid based of their individual market value, just like a job. I can guarantee you 90%+ would make significantly less than their current perks and benefits over the 4 years they play and unless they have academic scholarships most would be darn near broke like the rest of the student body and have to work for food services just to pay tuition, room and board. Take away the education support the college pays for as well. These kids have typically state of the art experiences. Also... ever since NCAA football and basketball games went away... how exactly are these universities profiting off the students likeness now... I'm also pretty sure these universities are putting an enormous amount of what they make back into things that benefit either the athletes or the student body in general. Let's not pretend like these universities are sitting on Scroog McDuck levels of money just playing the stock market and paying out millions in bonuses.

    I am not against increasing the stipend range or evening letting them have jobs. But a lot of the arguments for paying student athletes are coming from the same crowd that wont stop talking about realignment so it goes right into the meh box for me.

    Go to school as an athlete... study business or engineering... if the pros dont work out you still have a comfy job particularly with the student athlete post graduate networks out there.

    Or... go to school as an athlete... study english... dont get into the pros... be irritated that you're going to make $20k after college... then advocate for student athletes to get paid while in college because you're bitter.
     
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    In California, I have no doubt that this is a way to create another revenue stream for the state.
    They absolutely would get taxed.
     
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    Stupid law, it's not illegal for student-athletes to get paid in the other 49 states why does California feel the need to make a law to define it as being legal?

    If student-athletes can get paid for their likenesses then all of KU's Adidas money will be able to buy much better players. Wonder how many ISU fans will enjoy a change to players getting paid when the shoe companies start allocating out the players on their payroll to schools as they decide.

    There isn't a shortage of players looking to play college athletics under the current compensation system, the rule of supply and demand says that the market is fine with the current compensation scheme. If you want to watch pro sports go watch pro sports, there is no need to make college athletics into pro sports.
     
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  10. Clonehomer

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    So why do they sign LOI's? These rules are well known ahead of time. No one has forces them to go to college. They choose to do so.

    In reality, the groups keeping these athletes from earning more is the NFL and NBA by having age restrictions.
     
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    Good question!
     
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    I would totally buy a rhythmic gymnastics t-shirt with some girl wearing a bun on it.
     
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    I honestly feel like the only way the amateurism of college athletics gets fixed is by moving to a model closer to what we see in European soccer. The top flight kids sign contracts with the professional franchises while they are 13/14/15, then spend their time developing on youth teams.

    The NBA has shown that the best players don't need to go to college to be competitive and to make their money. For football, if there were a viable semi-pro/minor league I'm sure you would see a decent number of kids taking that route, instead of going to college. In the immortal words of Cardale Jones, "We ain't come to play school."

    The reason why these semi-pro or minor leagues haven't become a thing, is because the NCAA has a vested interest in squashing them before they can ever find a foothold. The NCAA is a non-profit that generates billions in revenue, and any challenger to their product will be eliminated before it can even begin.
     
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  15. Cyclone.TV

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    No need? Says the guy on the side watching it all happen. That’s a pretty ridiculous argument. “They don’t need to get paid because I don’t want them to”.
     
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    But it's really not. These are public universities, not private businesses.

    If you want capitalism and 18-22 year old kids that aren't ready for professional ball or aren't good enough for professional ball to get paid, go ahead and start a semi-pro league for them and pay them.
     
  17. CNECloneFan

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    You just made the case against this rule change. Do we really want athletes to be able to shop for, or switch "employers" because Iowa or Texas can and will pay more than Iowa State?
     
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    Do you have an example of the NCAA squashing any leagues? Seems the NFL and NBA would be more likely to squash competitors than the NCAA. The pro sports have just as much vested interest in free tryouts. A lot less risk if they can see them in college before deciding whether to offer a contract.
     
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  19. Cyclone.TV

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    The old “I need to have a good college team” argument. My favorite.
     
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