Moving to Des Moines

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  1. capitalcityguy

    capitalcityguy Well-Known Member

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    You might think that, but this has been studied and tracked. It isn't theory.

    The most recent local example would be Grand Ave in Des Moines. In the East Village, they removed lanes from each side and added bike lanes and narrowed the driving lanes. The accident reduction over the period of time this has been in place, has been measurable. The same can be witnessed when they did this to Ingersoll Avenue several yrs ago.

    Traffic calming measures really do work.
     
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  2. capitalcityguy

    capitalcityguy Well-Known Member

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    True it can reverse. I guess you'd have to make the case that is is "likely".

    Short of a dooms day scenario, I don’t see what factors would suggest a reversal but I'm all ears.
     
  3. ArgentCy

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    Economics change. These dense structures require complex support and dynamics and aren't really sustainable long term.
     
  4. capitalcityguy

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    Link to something? I’d be very interested as I do a lot of reading on this topic. Haven’t seen that theory floated out there. (again…I’m assuming no doomsday scenario).

    We’ve been inhabiting cities…very dense cities for thousands of years. We’ve had a lot of trial and error to figure this out to determine what works and what does not.

    One the flip-side, we’ve only done the suburban experiment for about 50-60 yrs. This is where the concern for fragility is best placed.
     
  5. CYEATHAWK

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    And this posts screams of Lynn Richards and the CNU. Maybe you should take some time, sit back and listen to a song by some old school hippies "out in the country" and stop shoveling that organizations BS propaganda.
     
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    Death, taxes and cap city pontificating in a thread about moving, finance, etc
     
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  8. motorcy90

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    I was asking OP if moving to the DSM area was really the best move or option, and that if that's really what they want, that the smaller surrounding communities might make more sense form what they said they were looking for and to save a little bit of money. As I said I grew up in Ankeny basically and have seen the problems it currently faces like many of the other surrounding suburbs. they are no longer the quite little places they were before that brought a lot of the families in to begin with. Some of the people I went to school with have either moved or want to move away from the area because of the unchecked growth going on.
     
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  9. mtowncyclone13

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    I don't want to move to Ankeny.

    Just because I'm curious, how do YOU define "unchecked growth"? How would growth be checked?
     
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    What makes it BS other than you disagree and prefer the suburban style of development?
     
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  11. capitalcityguy

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    I'd love to dialogue about this. We might be able to learn something from one another. Before we can do that however, you have to offer something worth responding to first.
     
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    ....and the fact that Wiggington needs to start at point next year (which I was validated by DSM Register article today which confirm Prohm has now said as much....assuming Wiggie is back).

    I'm here to help!
     
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    What in HS costs $1,000/month?? So far at 4th grade we've dabbled in dance, cheer, & soccer - haven't even spent a quarter of that I don't think. And my kids will be expected to have a job in high school, at least in the summer. I can't imagine the costs being the same, and probably not close.

    Unless this is some joke about our kids having kids by then.. lol.. in which case, ignore what I posted.
     
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  14. BCClone

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    A vehicle, gas, insurance, clothes, sports equipments and camps or AAU clubs and private lessons. Band instruments. Medical bills, acne treatments and chiro visits. Can keep going if you want.
     
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    If boys, grocery bills like you’ve never seen.
     
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    Yeah
    Yeah $50 an hour math tutors.
    $50 an hour math tutor.
     
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    My grandpa used to say...”Once you have kids, that’s all you have.”
     
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    yeah my mother always jokes that the food bill at home dropped $800 after I left. I was and still em a constant grazing style eater..
     
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    I'm not saying you can't spend $1,000/month on a high schooler, but I also don't think it's as common as you make it sound. Some of your items are things we already pay for the pre-schooler in addition to the daycare - while I'm sure many will increase in teenage years, it won't be as drastic as you propose. And not everyone does the AAU/non-public school music/tutor things every year, let alone every month.

    Even if it's close in high school, so far from K thru 4th grade with our oldest we've saved a ton EVERY month, and it's not close.
     
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    In youth a 50 buck bat that lasts 3-4 years works. In HS, those composite bats are 300-400 and you pray it lasts 2 . We didn’t buy expensive cleats yearly until HS and in youth it was cheaper ones that would go two years. Football is the nastiest sport to outfit, so different than I was in school.

    If your kid has a vehicle in 4th grade that eats up gas and insurance, he’s the coolest in his class. :)

    If you think what you spend on clothes for a 4th grader compares to a HSer, just give it a couple years. You are on the edge. Our youngest, 5th grader, has now became conscious about clothing brands and styles. Heck, socks now are like 30 bucks a pair. They don’t last any longer.

    My daughter quit dance after 8th grade and that was 250/month for lessons and costumes. The expenditures haven’t went down. Amongst the people I know and my sisters and their kids, I wouldn’t say we aren’t way above them. My sister probably spends more than we do.

    Next year one goes to college so that is 2k/month right there.

    Our daycare was probably 1000/month for 2 kids for comparison. (Or 500/kid)
     

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