Mizzou to SEC "inevitable and imminent"

[alarson]

Wasnt Deaton given this authority at the last meeting?

A side thought on the KC mess... what does arrowhead do after all of this? We know theyve wanted college games by them paying us, KU, KSU, and Mizzou to play there in recent years. With the MU-KU game possibly going away, i wonder if they try to convince us to play down there again. Maybe against KU this time (better ticket draw for them).

 

[joefrog]

So Mizzou is going to the SEC and probably being placed in the Eastern division, thus continually dealing with time zone issues for all sports? And more travel? Brilliant. Way to think of the student athletes first there guys.

Oh, and another thing that isn't brought up enough. Yeah, your legacy in sports in the Big12 will really be missed: 7 conference titles overall. 1 in basketball. 1-9? or something like that under Pinkle against OU and UT. Yeah, I would really be celebrating. Idiots.

Big12 Titles by school:
Baylor42 Iowa State11 Kansas24 Kansas State7 Missouri7 Oklahoma39 Oklahoma State40 Texas114 Texas A&M53 Texas Tech11

 

[jbhtexas]

I agree tell them to get lost. They can't have their cake and eat it too. They can't keep their regional rivalry and then bolt out of the region to the SEC. KU needs to stand tall and sever all ties with Mizzlosers.

Like Mulkey said yesterday regarding TAMU wanting to continue playing Baylor in WBB (paraphrasing): "If I'm not good enough to be married to, I'm sure as hell not going to sleep with you after the divorce."

 

[joefrog]

Wasnt Deaton given this authority at the last meeting?

A side thought on the KC mess... what does arrowhead do after all of this? We know theyve wanted college games by them paying us, KU, KSU, and Mizzou to play there in recent years. With the MU-KU game possibly going away, i wonder if they try to convince us to play down there again. Maybe against KU this time (better ticket draw for them).

I do not think Mizzou has really considered how angry the KC community is going to be if they do go SEC. Talk radio down here is just killing them, across the board. Pretty much everybody cannot defend the move or the reasoning behind it.

Mizzou games in KC will be poorly attended, I will guarantee that. I also doubt any former "rivals" will want to add them to their already tough schedules, especially at a "neutral" location.

So much stupidity and lack of leadership.

 

[Mizzoulander]

Oh, and another thing that isn't brought up enough. Yeah, your legacy in sports in the Big12 will really be missed: 7 conference titles overall. 1 in basketball. 1-9? or something like that under Pinkle against OU and UT. Yeah, I would really be celebrating. Idiots.

I know it's lazy to copy and paste your own replys, but this got swallwed by the monster thread:

We've played in the Big 12 for 15 years - I wouldn't say that the SEC is THAT much stronger as a conference. You think Mizzou is going to get crushed by LSU, Alabama, and Florida? You're probably right (we've only beaten UT and OU, like, three times in the Big 12). You think we're going to get our ***** handed to us by Arkansas, South Carolina, and Tennessee EVERY single year? I'd say that's a stretch. You think we're going to get consistently rolled against Vandy, Kentucky, and Miss. St.? Not freaking likely.

Not because Mizzou's some kind of juggernaut...we're not. But the SEC is like every other conference; it has its heavyweights, its middle-of-the-road teams, and its doormats. In the Big 12, we've done pretty well against the middle and the doormats.
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I'd add that "success" for Mizzou would probably be defined as going to bowl games most years, and competing for divisional titles occasionally (7 to 10 win seasons). No reason we can't do that in the SEC like we do in the Big 12. And if we DON'T, that's a failure on our coaches and players...not on the decision to leave.

 

[justcynn]

dragging feet, dragging feet....but why? If you gone, you gone yet you not gone yet...why? You say you will play in kc...but who want to play you? Seems as though you are waiting for something? Is it an invite, or a prenump from Texas, or is it just that mizzoulanders are slow, nothing says sec east like Columbia though...what say you mizzfu?

 

[Mizzoulander]

Like Mulkey said yesterday reagading TAMU wanting to continue playing Baylor in WBB (paraphrasing): "If I'm not good enough to be married to, I'm sure as hell not going to sleep with you after the divorce."

This is not a MARRIAGE...this is a BUSINESS arrangement! When it became less beneficial to Mizzou to stay in the Big 12, they left. That's why they have withdrawal clauses in the by-laws.

And people say WE'RE the ones driven by emotion...

You don't want to play us anymore? Okay...I get it. I personally think it would be great fun to have MU host a SEC/Big 12/B1G BB tourament in KC over the holidays. Make it a Big 8 "throwback" game with ISU, MU, NU, and somebody else.

Sure beats some lame "shootout" or "challenge" tournament outside of the lower 48 that nobody can attend.

 

[TXCyclones]

The drawn out decision is ridiculous, but as I posted under a different topic, we shouldn't be surprised. 150 years ago Missouri couldn't decide whether to be a slave state or a free state. They sent men and equipment to both sides, and had a star on both flags. Doomed to repeat history...

 

[joefrog]

I know it's lazy to copy and paste your own replys, but this got swallwed by the monster thread:I'd add that "success" for Mizzou would probably be defined as going to bowl games most years, and competing for divisional titles occasionally (7 to 10 win seasons). No reason we can't do that in the SEC like we do in the Big 12. And if we DON'T, that's a failure on our coaches and players...not on the decision to leave.

Dude, my wife is a Mizzou alum. She and her family are all big Mizzou fans. None of them can understand this move at all.

And, let's be honest why you are here. Fear. You know it, and everybody else reading this board knows it, that your days of being competitive in sports are over if you do make this move, not that you were really successful in the Big12 to start, but things are going to get worse. Much, much worse. Especially in football.

Get ready for these glory days to return:

2-9-0, 4-7-0, 3-7-1, 3-8-0, 3-7-1, 3-8-1, 3-8-0, 5-6-0, 7-5-0, 8-4-0, 4-7-0, 3-8-0

Arkansas after leaving the SWC for the SEC saw its Texas recruits drop from around 40 on the roster to around 10. You can only hope to do that well. And then what? You think those kids down in Tampa or Birmingham or Biloxi are going to jump at the chance to go to school in a different time zone away and a whole lot colder? When? Not right away, and that is for sure. It doesn't take long for a program to fall back down, and when they do, it is hard to get back up. Just look around some. Tennessee has a national championship in the last 12 years, seats over 100k at their stadium, and is the flagship university in that state. And they still haven't recovered. And now Missouri, way up there further north than Tennessee even, is going to now make it? Huh? Even after surrendering the football recruits in the KC region.

Say goodbye to meaningful games in football after the month of September. But don't worry, you'll still have basketball. Oh wait..........

 

[Cyclonestate78]

I know it's lazy to copy and paste your own replys, but this got swallwed by the monster thread:

We've played in the Big 12 for 15 years - I wouldn't say that the SEC is THAT much stronger as a conference. You think Mizzou is going to get crushed by LSU, Alabama, and Florida? You're probably right (we've only beaten UT and OU, like, three times in the Big 12). You think we're going to get our ***** handed to us by Arkansas, South Carolina, and Tennessee EVERY single year? I'd say that's a stretch. You think we're going to get consistently rolled against Vandy, Kentucky, and Miss. St.? Not freaking likely.

Not because Mizzou's some kind of juggernaut...we're not. But the SEC is like every other conference; it has its heavyweights, its middle-of-the-road teams, and its doormats. In the Big 12, we've done pretty well against the middle and the doormats.
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I'd add that "success" for Mizzou would probably be defined as going to bowl games most years, and competing for divisional titles occasionally (7 to 10 win seasons). No reason we can't do that in the SEC like we do in the Big 12. And if we DON'T, that's a failure on our coaches and players...not on the decision to leave.

You are missing one crucial point in your comparison. A middle of the road SEC team has superior athletes and superior facilities compared to the middle of the road Big XII teams. The doormats in the SEC are still landing better recruits then some of the middle of the road teams in the Big XII but you would never know with the meat grinder of a schedule they play every year. You typically don't see middle of the road SEC teams going to bowl games against the likes of Navy and get their *** handed to them. Hmmmmmm....

Dobbs runs for 166 yards, three scores as Navy crushes Missouri

http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=293650142

 

[snowcraig2.0]

dragging feet, dragging feet....but why? If you gone, you gone yet you not gone yet...why? You say you will play in kc...but who want to play you? Seems as though you are waiting for something? Is it an invite, or a prenump from Texas, or is it just that mizzoulanders are slow, nothing says sec east like Columbia though...what say you mizzfu?

@bobfescoe Bob Fescoe


Being told #mizzou waiting on a counter offer from big 12. These talks r intense a Lotta cash at stake

 

[CycloneChris]

This is not a MARRIAGE...this is a BUSINESS arrangement! When it became less beneficial to Mizzou to stay in the Big 12, they left. That's why they have withdrawal clauses in the by-laws.

And people say WE'RE the ones driven by emotion...

You don't want to play us anymore? Okay...I get it. I personally think it would be great fun to have MU host a SEC/Big 12/B1G BB tourament in KC over the holidays. Make it a Big 8 "throwback" game with ISU, MU, NU, and somebody else.

Sure beats some lame "shootout" or "challenge" tournament outside of the lower 48 that nobody can attend.

I'm hoping a tournament occurs in KC as well, WITHOUT MIZZOU. Mizzou can go host a tournament with their new friends.

 

[TXCyclones]

I do not think Mizzou has really considered how angry the KC community is going to be if they do go SEC. Talk radio down here is just killing them, across the board. Pretty much everybody cannot defend the move or the reasoning behind it.

Mizzou games in KC will be poorly attended, I will guarantee that. I also doubt any former "rivals" will want to add them to their already tough schedules, especially at a "neutral" location.

So much stupidity and lack of leadership.

This. This. This.

 

[ISUAgronomist]

@bobfescoe Bob Fescoe


Being told #mizzou waiting on a counter offer from big 12. These talks r intense a Lotta cash at stake

**** them.

 

[Mizzoulander]

I do not think Mizzou has really considered how angry the KC community is going to be if they do go SEC. Talk radio down here is just killing them, across the board. Pretty much everybody cannot defend the move or the reasoning behind it.

Mizzou games in KC will be poorly attended, I will guarantee that. I also doubt any former "rivals" will want to add them to their already tough schedules, especially at a "neutral" location.

So much stupidity and lack of leadership.

Not sure how long you're been listening, but KC talk radio has ALWAYS tried to kill Mizzou. Keitzman's a purple kitty, Fescoe's a beaker. Neither have ever supported Mizzou.

And why should they? Bashing the home team and taking sides is great for ratings in a divided market.

If Mizzou games in KC are well-attended now, why would that change? Are there legions of "fence-sitting" Big 12 fans who like both teams? It's KU and KSU that have problems selling football tickets in KC, not Mizzou.

If we move the Arkansas game to Arrowhead, it'll rock just like the Border War in 2007. Those guys are crazy.

Personally, I hope they don't move it. A basketball tourney is one thing, but moving home football games off campus? Screw that. Being on campus is what makes college football special.

 

[Cyclonestate78]

@bobfescoe Bob Fescoe


Being told #mizzou waiting on a counter offer from big 12. These talks r intense a Lotta cash at stake

Counter offer? Hey Mizzou... here is your counter offer...

GO **** YOURSELF!!!!!!!!

 

[justcynn]

@bobfescoe Bob Fescoe


Being told #mizzou waiting on a counter offer from big 12. These talks r intense a Lotta cash at stake

me no think they go, but wrong about a&m too...mizzfu does not fit in the sec, they are leveraging Texas big time and its a matter of how much Texas will give in, you don't talk about regional games in Kansas city before you announce, you don't have multiple public displays of indecision and you sure don't jump to play in the sec east for a few more bucks. Whatever they want from the big 12 is big or it would be done

 

[bosco]

@bobfescoe Bob Fescoe


Being told #mizzou waiting on a counter offer from big 12. These talks r intense a Lotta cash at stake

If this is true then Mizzou fans coming on here crying about instability is the main reason of going to the SEC can just shut the hell up.

 

[joefrog]

Not sure how long you're been listening, but KC talk radio has ALWAYS tried to kill Mizzou. Keitzman's a purple kitty, Fescoe's a beaker. Neither have ever supported Mizzou.

And why should they? Bashing the home team and taking sides is great for ratings in a divided market.

If Mizzou games in KC are well-attended now, why would that change? Are there legions of "fence-sitting" Big 12 fans who like both teams? It's KU and KSU that have problems selling football tickets in KC, not Mizzou.

If we move the Arkansas game to Arrowhead, it'll rock just like the Border War in 2007. Those guys are crazy.

Personally, I hope they don't move it. A basketball tourney is one thing, but moving home football games off campus? Screw that. Being on campus is what makes college football special.

Everybody on sportstalk radio in KC is bashing Mizzou, not just a couple announcers. I have yet to hear anyone make the logical case. Not just biased parties, but everyone is piling on.

Right now, as it is, Mizzou is a central university for the state leaning west and south, due to conference membership, traditional rivalries, and KC being such a great host for events. If and when Mizzou chooses east and south, say goodbye KC. Have fun embracing St. Loser and banjoland oops I mean the bootheel. It may not happen overnight, but influence of Mizzou and attention given to Tiger athletics will drop drastically. That will occur, and if you are honest, you would even admit that itself. So where does Mizzou make up for this loss of interest? They will not. And that is when the 4 win seasons return. Enjoy.

 

[snowcraig2.0]

I think you guys should lay off Mizzou. If they get what they want out of this, it could be very beneficial for ISU.