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  1. mattyheiden

    mattyheiden Active Member

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    Yea. Do you not remember the Todd Lickliter years? Hiring him to take over after Alford was a disaster and did a lot of damage to the program. I don't think Alford did a great job of recruiting either, especially towards the end of his tenure in Iowa City.

    His downfall recruiting-wise is not getting a top notch PG. He's still picked up some fairly good players and upgraded the roster. He's pulled quite a few 4 star recruits but needs to do a better job of recruiting for need, not just length. Point guard being an obvious issue.
     
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    I just had in my head that a tireless recruiter would recruit better.
     
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    Not this crap again. Let it alone. Do you remember Larry E & the Co-ed fiasco which led to Wayne Morgan (Bruce VDV was our pathetic AD too), which culminated in McDoormat? How was the national perception of Iowa State at that point?! JP was able to make 2 great hires since that time. Fred got the program going in YEAR 2 - despite the adversity he inherited! Fran has made the tourney a couple of times, but hasn't been able to achieve consistency & it is NOT because of Lick!!
    I am still not convinced he is a good recruiter. His best recruit so far was Uthoff (lifetime Hok fan whose GF went to EIU). Who of Fran's recruits has played consistently in the NBA? If you look at Fred and Prohm - there are a number of guys they have gotten to the NBA (Nader, Burton, Morris, Niang, Naz, and Payne and Caanan, too). Pretty good list of recruits & development of those recruits by the ISU coaches.
     
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    For the last time, while Fran didn't have to recruit Uthoff, his gf went to Wisconsin where they met. She later joined him at Iowa.
     
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    #366 mattyheiden, Oct 22, 2018
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    You might want to re-read my previous posts. I also said "tireless" and I believe I'm right about Lickliter and the previous fallout from the Alford years. Anyways, Uthoff was originally a UW recruit that transferred in. Fran didn't recruit him out of HS. Iowa doesn't really dabble in transfers and JUCOs all that much either, but I'd say guys like Garza, Cook and Weiskamp were pretty highly regarded coming out of HS. His two 4 star rated sons were highly rated, but that's not a tough recruiting sell. Marble was a Fran recruit that made an NBA roster (2 seasons). Aaron White was a pretty good recruit and panned out well and has carved out a pretty decent career in Europe. Adam Woodbury and Mike Gesell were pretty two good catches a few years back. Jok is in the NBA "G" league like Montee Morris

    As for ISU, Nader originally went to Northern Illinois and transferred in, Burton originally signed with Marquette along with Jameel McKay. Babb was originally at Arkansas. Morris & Niang both came to ISU from HS though. Not sure how long they'll play in the NBA, but they'll get a chance to continue. Morris might still be in the "G" league, not 100% sure. Nader might end playing the most NBA games of anyone mentioned in these 2 paragraphs. 7 players from last year's team started their collegiate careers elsewhere including 5 from other 4 year schools. In fact, Since Hoiberg's 1st year in 2010, ISU has brought in 31 transfers (I think) or roughly 4 players a year from other programs.
     
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  7. CyDude16

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    #367 CyDude16, Oct 22, 2018
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    Niang, Morris and Nader have all full NBA contracts and aren’t in the G league anymore. Burton and Naz are two way contracts. At least know your **** before posting.

    Meanwhile, zero hawks are in the NBA. And diddling around the g league and Europe only.

    Also Marble wasn’t a Fran recruit lol

    Fran isn’t a tireless recruiter, he’s actually rather lazy imo.
     
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  9. CyTwins

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    Lol what? Fran being a poor recruiter is why you are where you are
     
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    Connor wasn't highly rated. He wasn't even a top 150 recruit. Also Marble was a Lickliter recruit
     
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    How's that working out for you guys?
     
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  13. dexterhawk

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    I'm just trying to go with the flow...
     
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    40 mph winds...that and we didn't have to do much. Totally throttled Maryland.
     
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    Holy cow! Thanks for all the Hawk obsession here! I literally missed hundreds of posts about the Iowa Hawkeyes just yesterday alone. Can someone give me a quick synopsis of what I missed? Was there anything new or groundbreaking or did ISU fans just cover the same obsessed bases as always?

    -Nate Stanley is fat
    -Basic Stanley obsession really
    -Penn St. is overrated
    -B1G sucks
    -ISU would beat Iowa in a rematch today
    -ISU would be 5-2 if it weren't for lightning
    -@jp4cy being Twins slappy


    Hopefully something new was discussed yesterday by all those obsessed with the Hawks that post here (I am self admittedly obsessed with the Hawks).
     
  16. CyTwins

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    Lol Benji is arguably the biggest homer and even be said Stanley was bad Saturday
     
  17. dexterhawk

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    b12 leader Texas losing to Maryland destroys b12 credibility.
     
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  18. dexterhawk

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    seems reasonable
     
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    What the heck? Basketball posts in a football thread? Wow you guys really went off the rails yesterday.
     
  20. dexterhawk

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    ISU fans seek approval for losing to bad teams (TCU)
    Okie st isn't rated and yes, WvU is over rated.
     
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