The thing that bugs me watching this is the same thing that bugs me about a lot of productions, the music is overdone. Sometimes the dialog and great cinematography is way enough to carry a scene. You don't need to add dramatic music behind everything. Or, if you just have to add the music, maybe tone it down. This episodes just struck me as one of those overdoing it. It's like they are stuck with "These sort of scenes have always had music overlays!"
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I don't recall the elves hating the dwarves for delving too deep. I think they considered them greedy and the whole thing kind of a shame.
I think the series is honestly basically an homage to the Jackson films and those films have a lot of slow-mo and music overlays.
Perhaps I am reading between the lines, but I am pretty sure that Celeborn said something to that effect to Gimli when they were in Lorien (when discussing Gandalf falling to the balrog).
Most of the drama of this series continues to be from the characters making incredibly stupid decisions. I'm almost to the point of rooting for Adar and the orcs.
Elendil just heading back to the camp instead of trying to find his queen and son first. Celeborn supposedly missing or dead and it's Galadriel's brother that she's most focused on avenging. Severely wounded guy put on horseback for what's probably a 2 month ride to seek aid. And damn, Harfoots, pick a lane.
Oh, and a leaf waking the Balrog? Ok.
Spectacle is beginning to trump story here. Even I'm running out of ways to defend this series from its more ardent detractors.
Elendil just heading back to the camp instead of trying to find his queen and son first. Celeborn supposedly missing or dead and it's Galadriel's brother that she's most focused on avenging. Severely wounded guy put on horseback for what's probably a 2 month ride to seek aid. And damn, Harfoots, pick a lane.
Oh, and a leaf waking the Balrog? Ok.
Spectacle is beginning to trump story here. Even I'm running out of ways to defend this series from its more ardent detractors.
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“Do Not Repent of Your Welcome To The Dwarf.” The Fellowship Tell the Story of Gandalf’s Fall to Galadriel and Celeborn.
The Fellowship of the Ring by J.R.R Tolkien (Harper Collins 1991) pp. 344-347 With the arrival of the Fellowship to the halls of Galadriel and Celeborn in Caras Galadhon at the heart of the realm o…
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“Had I known that the Dwarves had stirred up this evil in Moria again, I would have forbidden you to pass the northern borders, you and all that went with you. And if it were possible, one would say that at the last Gandalf fell from wisdom into folly, going needlessly into the net of Moria.”
“Do Not Repent of Your Welcome To The Dwarf.” The Fellowship Tell the Story of Gandalf’s Fall to Galadriel and Celeborn.
The Fellowship of the Ring by J.R.R Tolkien (Harper Collins 1991) pp. 344-347 With the arrival of the Fellowship to the halls of Galadriel and Celeborn in Caras Galadhon at the heart of the realm o…
“Had I known that the Dwarves had stirred up this evil in Moria again, I would have forbidden you to pass the northern borders, you and all that went with you. And if it were possible, one would say that at the last Gandalf fell from wisdom into folly, going needlessly into the net of Moria.”
I don't get hatred out of that at all.
The original animosity was over some jewelry relating to the Simalris. But since that is all Simalrillion based, they morphed into the dwarves being greedy for LotR. And in the case of RoP, it will possibly be the refusal to give the elves mithril. However, the only way to get the mithril is to delve too deeply.
So in fact, it may be the dwarves blaming the elves for the downfall of Durin's folk. Durin IV will probably over throw his father and mine the mithril for Elrond, but in the process it will lead to the Balrog destroying Khazad-dum and cause the fracture between the two races.
So in fact, it may be the dwarves blaming the elves for the downfall of Durin's folk. Durin IV will probably over throw his father and mine the mithril for Elrond, but in the process it will lead to the Balrog destroying Khazad-dum and cause the fracture between the two races.
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Welp...Season 1 finale has come to pass. 2 years(?) to wait now for Season 2. I watched it late last night because I knew the spoilers would be strong today. Any others out there?
I struggled with this one honestly...I had to re-read some passages and letters to get my head around what they did and I'm mostly fine with it now, but the writing on this thing has been by far the biggest disappointment. There have been some cringey lines, but everything else has been pretty enjoyable. Rumor is that Neil Gaiman is doing rewrites for Season 2.
Writers did Galadriel pretty poorly in my opinion with the choice to use her as a foil against revealing Sauron, since she was the most in-tune in the lore. It was always going to be a shock to put a face to Sauron, and I don't think most people realize how difficult that is to overcome, but the script clues have been so obvious throughout the season that I was just getting to the point where I hoped H=S didn't happen for the sake of the showrunners.
I struggled with this one honestly...I had to re-read some passages and letters to get my head around what they did and I'm mostly fine with it now, but the writing on this thing has been by far the biggest disappointment. There have been some cringey lines, but everything else has been pretty enjoyable. Rumor is that Neil Gaiman is doing rewrites for Season 2.
Writers did Galadriel pretty poorly in my opinion with the choice to use her as a foil against revealing Sauron, since she was the most in-tune in the lore. It was always going to be a shock to put a face to Sauron, and I don't think most people realize how difficult that is to overcome, but the script clues have been so obvious throughout the season that I was just getting to the point where I hoped H=S didn't happen for the sake of the showrunners.
I haven't seen the last episode but I've enjoyed it. It's not my favorite, and there are definitely some dumb choices the characters make, but whatever. I'm not going to take it that seriously. It's still a heck of a lot better than what Jackson did with the Hobbit.
I've been an avid LotR fan for a long time and I enjoyed this series. Sure there's some inaccuracies (but less than some would have you believe) and the storyline dragged at points. But overall it's been a fun view into a very different time frame of Middle Earth.
Good final episode. Sad that it's going to be awhile for season 2. It could be better but I still really enjoyed this season.
I was really, really looking forward to this one, and I’d say I’m pleased with it, which is a high bar.
I think it was well cast, and while there is some clear departure from the lore, I think they got the big things right. Wish it was one season a year.
I think it was well cast, and while there is some clear departure from the lore, I think they got the big things right. Wish it was one season a year.
At my age talk of a season 2 being two years out is sort of a bummer. Need to check updated actuary tables.
Just finished the season finale. Sure it wasn't a perfect season but overall I loved it. Big plot twists at the end.
I was pretty Meh until the last 2 episodes, but man that finale was excellent. Totally didn't see who was who until they told me.
