Leno hammering Letterman in ratings...
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My opinion of course, but Craig Ferguson is by far the cream of the crop. He is sharp, witty, and very gifted. Dances on several edges of issues very adroitly.
I am surprised no one has mentioned him before in this thread.
I am surprised no one has mentioned him before in this thread.
Conan also had Leno's disastrous ratings at the 9pm slot that has a big effect on the lead-in audience for his show. What are the ratings like now at the 9pm slot with some new shows? In addition, leno was cannibalizing the audience for that format, and taking away some of the best guests that conan could have gotten.
You may not consider Leno funny and may prefer Coco.
Do you really think that a network should cater to your taste and ignore all the surveys and data that show that far more people watch Leno than Coco?
Ratings do not equal good or bad TV though. If they do, then crappy reality shows and formulaic procedurals are apparently better than the many great dramas that have been on Cable in recent years. Apparently Conan's comedy was too intelligent for the Jay Leno crowd. Heck NBC basically said that Leno's brand of comedy is more apt for regular people and Conan's comedy apparently went over the heads of the Leno crowd.
The only time Leno is remotely funny is when he is reading headlines that his viewers send in. Of course Letterman's isn't what it used to be either. I suppose thats why most people (at least that I know) watch Colbert in that timeslot if they watch late night comedy shows.
skewed by the fact that conan was never given a chance to succeed since leno undercut him at the 9pm slot, both in ratings leadin, audience splitting, and in taking away guests.
Apparently Leno is funny and interesting to quite a few people...at least funny enough to watch over Letterman. You just don't happen to be one of them.
After being beat down for most of the day by work and whatever else, many people (myself included) are just looking for some light humor before they turn in. That's what Leno provides. It's not deeply intellectual humor, it's not biting sarcasm, it's not overly vitriolic, it's not crude, it's not overly political one way or the other and thus will generally not anger you by taking stands on an issues. Do you really want to be angered before you go to bed by some guy bashing something or someone you like? Leno is generally pleasant with the guests and the interviews don't make one cringe if the guest isn't a great interview.
It appears that this is what many who are watching in that timeslot are looking for.
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Jeesh...this sounds like a GM thread...Conan failed and it was all somebody else's fault.
Or they could bring in new writers and replace the half of the cast that just isn't funny...
Actually, you do bring up a very good point. An hour long SNL that focused around the opening political skit (which is almost always funny), the opening monologue, Weekend Update, the musical guest (and they really need to do a better job of booking those - sadly, from what I can remember I'm ashamed to admit the only musical guest I can even remember from this season is Lady Gaga, which tells you just how bad it's been), and a few regular recurring skits, and it would be a much better show. But more than anything else it badly needs a new cast, because it's just been pathetic since Will Ferell and company moved on...
I also agree with this. Cut it to the "current events" cold open. Host monologue (this will always be good or bad depending on the host's talents). Skit. Fake advertisement. Skit. SNL Digital Short. Weekend Update. Skit. Musical Guest. Short ending skit (Like the Rahm Emmanuel one a couple months ago).
They should keep Samberg for his brilliant Digital Short work, I could really care less about any of the other cast members.
This season of SNL hasn't been that great, but last year's SNL was one of the best, most complete seasons that they've had in years. Absolutely Hilarious. Great guests that mixed well with the cast and I think that made a huge difference.
Right now, besides weekend update, about the only thing I always find funny is the guys doing sports on ESPN classic that know nothing about them.
I did some basketball play-by-play and wanted to end every advertising oneliner with "SUMMER"S EVE"........."Deuche."
Right now, besides weekend update, about the only thing I always find funny is the guys doing sports on ESPN classic that know nothing about them.
I did some basketball play-by-play and wanted to end every advertising oneliner with "SUMMER"S EVE"........."Deuche."
So that is why Alf didn't make it, but Greatest American Hero did?
and why Caddyshack II never won a single Oscar? No wait, that was just really, really bad.
I would have believed all of this if the thread title was just, "Leno hammering Letterman". Outside of that, those two can't be getting much action anymore.......
He was in some movie with the Napolean Dynamite guy a couple years ago, outside of that I'm not sure.
Thinking back in his career I'd say he was my favorite host of the Daily Show, best anchor on Sportscenter, and funniest late night talk show. He should come back to the talk show biz so I can see interesting interviews and actual comedy again.
I think you're being a bit unreasonable, who doesn't think that those same sarah palin jokes are funny 2 years later?
Probably the same people who still like the "hope and change" jokes 2 years later. :wink:
In all seriousness, let's just make sure to keep this thread away from politics. Thanks.
