NBA: Lebron James to opt out of contract
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You specifically said Bosh sucks. He's one of the top 5 power forwards in the league, easily. If he were playing for just about any other team, he'd put up monster numbers, too. But he's more interested in winning championships and has been willing to take more of a backseat to do it.
And no **** Bosh isn't on LeBron's level. Outside of Kobe and maybe Duncan, not a single player has been on LBJ's level in the past 15 years.
There's certainly some drama with the news that he's seeking a max contract, he has every right to and I wouldn't criticize him for doing so…but going the superfriends route is obviously more difficult if everyone wants their true market value (and James is obviously still league max value).
Really....
And the number that is most commonly used is their height in shoes, but whatever.
And way to go out on a limb saying he isn't on the level of LBJ. Really big jump there.
Bosh is a solid piece to a championship team and absolutely does not suck.
Wade on the other hand....
I saw an article that speculated LeBron's on court value with no max was something like $55 million.
I'm impressed he has always taken a paycut his entire career when he is already so vastly underpaid.
I expect LeBron to take a deal close to the max, but not at it. Something like $24 million per year. Bosh and especially Wade should be taking the paycut to play with LeBron. If they don't someone else will gladly do it.
He's a lot better than Boozer. Probably both defensively and offensively.
It's hard to find a guy who is 6'11 and can move like Bosh and also shoot at a high level from long 2 point range and in. That athleticism also allows him to be a good defender.
He did have a terrible finals though, there's no disputing that.
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Boozer rebounds at a higher rate in fewer minutes, and Bosh's defensive metrics aren't that much better.
Bosh has a great 3 point shot (has gotten much better over the years) but beyond that there's not a huge difference which is odd given bosh's frame and athleticism.
Bosh was worth 8 win shares last season, Boozer 3.4. You're right that the defensive win shares were close between the two but offensively there was no comparison. Bosh shoots better from every range than Boozer, Bosh is top 5 in the league around the rim, and a top 3 mid range shooter.
Bosh just got carried to 3 championships so people think he is an elite player. Both were near elite players during their prime.
I wouldn't say he's a great three point shooter yet, although he has improved dramatically over the last few years. He's without a doubt a great midrange shooter though, only Dirk is a better pick and pop guy.
Bosh gives you 3 more PPG, 3 times as many blocks, more steals, more free throws attempted and a better FT%, shoots 6% (!) better while taking shots from much further away, and shoots 34% from deep while Boozer absolutely never shoots 3s.
The one bad thing about his ability to stretch the defense is he spends more time on the perimeter and his rebounding suffers a bit.
Bosh is a much better player. Boozer is solid though.
Go to http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boozeca01.html and http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html and you will see that Bosh's win share number is literally twice as high as Boozer's.
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Agreed. He is a great 3 point shooter as far as centers go, almost no centers in the NBA can stretch the defense like he can.
Combined with the deadly 20 footer...trust me if you're cheering against him you don't like seeing him with room to shoot.
I think LeBron wants Bosh to stay. Wade is the one who make no sense on the same team as LeBron.
