k-state hires tcu's wbb coach to replace deb patterson ...
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Playing against your former team (and players you recruited) twice a year? That might be a bit awkward...
Nothing like leaving your former team high and dry as they get ready for the WNIT on Wednesday night.
I don't know what he had coming in next year at TCU, but he is going to struggle for a few years at KSU. TCU should be a decent team next year with what they have coming back.
I don't know what he had coming in next year at TCU, but he is going to struggle for a few years at KSU. TCU should be a decent team next year with what they have coming back.
I didn't think Deb Patterson was that bad. K State should have been more careful because I don't think this is a good move.
Second year coach Matt Bollant is stinking it up at Illinois and I thought he'd be rolling by now. So "great" coaches can move and get in the doghouse. I know KState went with a safe hire, a successful one who knows the BIG XII and area, that sounds great but may not be. I have watched guys like Jody Martinez at Bethel College. He is a very competent and fierce competitor who could make the jump to a big time school. He reminds me of Bill though a little older.
This is a head scratcher to me.
He's a good coach, but I don't know if it was an upgrade. I question his recruiting, if he can't recruit top talent to TCU in the Big 12 in the heart of Texas where recruits run a muck, what makes them think he can compete with the Big dogs of Bill Fennelly, Lisa Bludder, and Connie Yori of the Midwest.
He's a good coach, but I don't know if it was an upgrade. I question his recruiting, if he can't recruit top talent to TCU in the Big 12 in the heart of Texas where recruits run a muck, what makes them think he can compete with the Big dogs of Bill Fennelly, Lisa Bludder, and Connie Yori of the Midwest.
and I might add, that is a small salary for this league. maybe it was his wife wanting to come home.
I know it happens here and there, but hiring a head coach from within your conference - come on, it better be a big hire or other reasons - and that doesn't appear the case here.
I think Deb peaked early at KSU and didn't really maintain and dropped off. There also was always a lot of buzz about how she handled student athletes (i.e. she is very religious and pretty open about it). If I remember correctly, their former star Kendra Wecker and her are not on good terms for something?
As someone else said, maybe TCU should give her a look? Maybe her style would fit there.
As someone else said, maybe TCU should give her a look? Maybe her style would fit there.
It'll be interesting to see what happens next. Bollant was excellent at UWGB but at Big 10, he's competing against OSU, Michigan State, Iowa, or even Minny.
I agree, his accomplishments at Green Bay were impressive. You'd think he could handle the Big 10 competition.
Remember that Kevin Borseth preceded Bollant at UWGB, went from UWGB to Michigan, which is when Bollant went to UWGB, IIRC. While Borseth achieved some modest success at Michigan, he could not get them to the top as he did UWGB. When Bollant left UWGB for Illinois, Borseth high-tailed it back to UWGB. UWGB just missed the NCAA tourney this year. It's not unlike McDermott and success at ISU vs. UNI and Creighton. Some things don't work in power conferences.
For that matter, Mittie's success is not in the Big 12. Still an open question.
Uh, Bollant has signed two top 25 recruiting classes in a row, and his 2014 class ranked third in the Big Ten. Signed Chatrice White, a McDonald's AA post player out of Nebraska, whom we also recruited.
Don't think I'd bury Bollant quite yet. His all-court style that pounded ISU a couple of years ago in the NCAA's requires depth, and he's building it. Would love for him to succeed BF when he retires.
Don't think I'd bury Bollant quite yet. His all-court style that pounded ISU a couple of years ago in the NCAA's requires depth, and he's building it. Would love for him to succeed BF when he retires.
not all that much different than bruce weber hire. a proven, competent coach with solid values. and like weber, it's been pretty much a "meh/wait and see" down here.
as for deb, she was loathed by many k-state fans for her handling of players, including kendra wecker, who either went her way or too often hit the road. the final straw was running off paola, ks youngster, taelor kerr, who went on to be conference poy at gonzaga. too many talented kansas kids were going elsewhere to play hoops. attendance was falling off. and starting to lose to ku, deb finished 30-10, was the final straw.
personally, i wish she had been fired years ago. i thought she was a dreadful bench coach.
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This. IMO, this hire will mend the KS recruiting issues and give KState ties to KCMO. He'll have the same chance at the Texas recruits he was vying for at TCU.
Speaking of Minnesota, the natives are pretty restless and many would like to have their coach fired. Another season with no NCAA. Gophers might be coach shopping yet this year although I think she might get another year with a pretty decent class coming in to add to her senior to be Big 10 scoring champ and sophomore to be young center star. If they do can her the problem is like what is being discussed her; who would be better?
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Bollant was great at UWGB and I am a fan (as I am not far from Green Bay). He should be able to do something with what he has now.
