Jimbo Fisher unloads on Saban

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Clark

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I have zero inside knowledge about the situation, but I'm guessing there is a grain of truth on both sides:

- A&M did buy their players (in the sense of NIL)
- Saban probably does have a shady dark past
- 'Bama probably did all the exact same things that they are accusing A&M of doing.

If it's all legal now, why so butthurt?

I pretty much agree. It's pretty clear that Saban is absolutely right that A&M's class is bought and paid for. I'm confident that Saban allowed shenanigans to go on that helped build his LSU and Alabama programs.
 
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Obviously it's hilarious since everyone cheats. But if I were Jimbo, I wouldn't even flinch and just use this for recruiting. "Yeah, like Saban said, come here and get paid"
 

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Alabama is self sustaining because of the **** they did before. A&M is trying to replicate what Alabama did to build that self sustaining program and Saban is throwing a temper tantrum.
That's not my point though. I don't even think Saban's comments were that malicious or angry. He's just saying fake NIL has allowed A&M to do this. That's a fact and Jimbo get's butt hurt about that reality.

At the end of the day it two guys who are indirectly saying the way they cheat/cheated is "better" than the way the other guys do. It's why everyone hates the SEC.
 

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What advantages does Alabama have that A&M doesn't? The only difference I can see is that Alabama has Saban and a better winning record.
They have way more tradition. That's not to say A&M doesn't have all the resources to do the same type of stuff. A&M has long history of underachieving.
 
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In short, Saban was presenting to local business leaders at some function. Saban goes off on a little tangent saying that A&M's entire recruiting class was bought and paid for (pay for play) and that is not the intent of NIL. While Alabama players have gone out themselves to find agents and deals themselves (according to Saban).



Where have the Bama players been getting all of those fancy sports cars over the years? For Saban to call out someone for shady tactics is funny IMO.
 
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tman24

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Bama can't afford to keep up with A&M with current energy prices..

A&M and UT are being flooded with cash right now..
Yep. Bama did fine when barely anyone else was doing it. Now everyone is doing it without issue and they suddenly have a problem with it.
 
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That's not my point though. I don't even think Saban's comments were that malicious or angry. He's just saying fake NIL has allowed A&M to do this. That's a fact and Jimbo get's butt hurt about that reality.

At the end of the day it two guys who are indirectly saying the way they cheat/cheated is "better" than the way the other guys do. It's why everyone hates the SEC.
What is fake NIL? Its all legal & Bama is doing the same thing. What this is really about, A&M now has deeper pockets(oil money) than Bama, where as before Bama probably had the bigger network of boosters(probably one of the biggest) using underhanded/illegal tactics(bagman). I remember Coach K complaining about Calipari’s one&done’s before he used it to win another title
 

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Yep. Bama did fine when barely anyone else was doing it. Now everyone is doing it without issue and they suddenly have a problem with it.

They'll be ok.. But I'm sure Saban is pissed about his $1000 handshakes no longer holding weight. His class is 6-7 commits behind his peers


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What is fake NIL? Its all legal & Bama is doing the same thing. What this is really about, A&M now has deeper pockets(oil money) than Bama, where as before Bama probably had the bigger network of boosters(probably one of the biggest) using underhanded/illegal tactics(bagman). I remember Coach K complaining about Calipari’s one&done’s before he used it to win another title
Sounds like Saban is saying TAM broke the only "rule" that applies to NIL, that the Athletic Dept/Univ. cannot be involved in determining who gets paid and how much. Bama apparently does it right, where businesses/boosters choose who to pay and how much, not Saban.

And here we stand, pockets turned out, mouths a gape, watching the rich boys fight over who has moral fiber.