Jeff Goodman’s College Hoops Chain of Command for Every Conference

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  1. LLCoolJansma

    LLCoolJansma Well-Known Member

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    Found this interesting:

    https://watchstadium.com/news/jeff-goodmans-college-hoops-chain-of-command-for-every-conference-11-01-2018/

    Here are the eight categories that were utilized to determine the overall rankings.

    History/Tradition – The history of the program
    Media Exposure – Games on national television
    Game Atmosphere – Includes attendance
    Budget/Resources – Includes coaches’ salaries, recruiting budget, travel budget, private planes, cost of attendance, etc.
    Buy Games – Programs who are bought the fewest number of times will rank first
    Geographical Recruiting Base – Proximity to players
    Facilities – Not just the arena, but also practice facilities, weight room, locker rooms, etc.
    Selling Pros – Being able to sell not only NBA players, but also those who play overseas

    Short cut for those who want the in-state schools.

    6. IOWA STATE (38) – Hilton Magic is real. It began with Johnny Orr, who got the program rolling in the 1980s, and continued with Tim Floyd and Larry Eustachy. The Cyclones’ success was placed on hold until Fred Hoiberg led Iowa State to four NCAA Tournaments in five seasons. Fan support is terrific for a program that has only gone to one Final Four (1944) and has reached the NCAA tourney just nine times since 2000.

    Where they win: “Fan base for sure. Hilton Magic. It’s second in the league behind Kansas. Fans travel and support it. Hilton Coliseum is the real deal.” – Big 12 head coach

    The knock: “Definitely location. There’s a reason Fred Hoiberg went heavy on transfers and coaches have gone big with JUCOs. There’s just not much talent in the state.” – Big 12 assistant
    https://watchstadium.com/news/big-12-basketball-coaches-rank-the-best-jobs-in-the-conference-12-13-2018/

    11. Iowa (40) – Lute Olson took the Hawkeyes to five NCAA tournament appearances in his last five seasons, George Raveling went to a pair in three seasons and Tom Davis went nine times in his 13 years with the program. Steve Alford struggled in his eight years, going twice, Todd Lickliter went 0-for-3 and Fran McCaffery is 3-for-8 thus far. The lone category where Iowa ranks in the top half of the league is in being able to get kids into school.

    Where they win: “The state has a lot of dogs named Carver. There’s no doubt that Iowa is the state school. It’s also easy to get kids into school, and keep them in.” – Big Ten head coach

    The knock: “There aren’t a ton of players in Iowa, and you aren’t going into Chicago, Indiana or Ohio and beating guys for kids in those states.” – Big Ten head coach
    https://watchstadium.com/news/big-ten-basketball-coaches-rank-the-best-jobs-in-the-conference-10-11-2018/
     
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  2. CTTB78

    CTTB78 Well-Known Member

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    #2 CTTB78, May 25, 2019
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    You gotta wonder what Big10 coach thinks Iowa is the state school and evidently also hasn't paid attention to what Steve Prohm did in Chicago last year.
     
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  3. BCClone

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    Probably their rival Rutgers. Or this dude named Fran.
     
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  4. Cyched

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    Who?
     
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  5. CloneGuy8

    CloneGuy8 Well-Known Member

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    If by state school they mean a bunch of kids from the Chicago suburbs that couldn't get into Illinois, then yes, Iowa is definitely the state school.
     
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  6. Messi

    Messi Well-Known Member

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    9 tournament appearances since 2000 doesn’t seem that bad? I wonder where that ranks among P6 schools?
     
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  7. NorthCyd

    NorthCyd Well-Known Member

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    Iowa State is better than 6th. That's ********.
     
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  8. cyclonedave25

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    I don’t know about 9 in 19 years, but we definitely rank pretty dang high with 7 Big Dances in the last 8 years.
     
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  9. NWICY

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    Yeah f*ck that 6th ranking in the B12.
     
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  10. Cycsk

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    Seems that the votes came from whomever Goodman happens to know. Lots of stupidity in the comments.
     
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  12. mynameisjonas

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    3rd or 4th since 2012.
     
  13. VeloClone

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    I don't think I have ever seen a dog named Carver. Kinnick or Hayden? Absolutely. I know of more dogs named Lambeau in Iowa than Carver.
     
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  14. cyfan21

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    True statement
     
  15. NWICY

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    Unluckily I do know some kids named Kinnick. Poor kids.
     
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  16. HFCS

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    Seems like he doesn't realize we did well in Chicago high school recruiting last year in our summary or Iowa's.
     
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    Oh boy, there's a trigger statement for a lot of prissy boys .
     
  18. kentkel

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    I think we should be higher in the "selling pros" category! That is the one I take major issue with. Otherwise, I'm not gonna argue too much about the other categories.
     
  19. megamanxzero35

    megamanxzero35 Well-Known Member

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    I'm fine with 6th when you weigh all the factors. Fact of the matter is, our state doesn't produce talent consistently. Texas has 16 kids in the top 150 of 247 alone. Kansas has 10 kids ranked in the top 206. Meanwhile Iowa had 3 recruits ranked and only 2 were top 200. Last year there were 2 top 200 recruits in Iowa and in 2017 were didn't even have a Top 150 recruit in the state. So really, Iowa State offers everything a coach would want but presents some recruiting obstacles that are probably a little too big to ignore.
     
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  20. ForbinsAscynt

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    After reading the criteria I would have said 3rd or 4th. We can do better.
     

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