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[Rhoadhoused]

My biggest beef with the "January Bowl" thing is that it isn't a level playing field and does not indicate your level of success accurately. Iowa tied for 4th in the Big 10 this year and got to a "traditional" Big 10 Bowl. In the late 80s and early 90s the Big 10 noticed that January bowls were more prestigious and they moved the Gator Bowl and the Captial One Bowl (don't know what they were called before) to January first from late December.

Now the Big 10 has 5 January bowls, and could have had 6 this year if they filled all of their bowl slots.

The Big 12 has 2, 3 in a year with two BCS bowls.

 

[FDWxMan]

In the late 80s and early 90s the Big 10 noticed that January bowls were more prestigious and they moved the Gator Bowl and the Captial One Bowl (don't know what they were called before) to January first from late December.

No. The Capital One Bowl was played on Jan 1 in the 40s and 50s and then moved back to January in 1986. (It was previously named the Tangerine/Citrus Bowl.) Didn't become a "Big Ten" bowl until 1992.

Gator Bowl wasn't an annual Big Ten bowl until 2011. It came back to January in ''96, after being played in Jan during the 40s and 50s as well, as well as a handful of times in between.

It's not a Big Ten conspiracy. They didn't move either of those bowls.

Now, over the last 5 years, yes, they have lately collected agreements with a lot of "January Bowls," so you're still partially correct.

 

[Rhoadhoused]

No. The Capital One Bowl was played on Jan 1 in the 40s and 50s and then moved back to January in 1986. (It was previously named the Tangerine/Citrus Bowl.) Didn't become a "Big Ten" bowl until 1992.

Gator Bowl wasn't an annual Big Ten bowl until 2011. It came back to January in ''96, after being played in Jan during the 40s and 50s as well.

It's not a Big Ten conspiracy. They didn't move either of those bowls.

Now, over the last 5 years, yes, they have lately collected agreements with a lot of "January Bowls," so you're still partially correct.

I know that in the 40s and 50s both were in January.

And the Big 10 acquired a bunch of extra bowls that were in January, it's the same difference. It's not a coincidence that they not just have the most Jan 1st bowl games, but by far the most. It's about TV and money. Not football merit.

 

[NEICyFan]

Saying January bowls aren't what they used to be is a comment straight from Captain Obvious. No one disagrees. The source is the issue.


This is the kind of minor league stuff our AD shouldn't be a part of. Shameful. We are getting roasted on Twitter for this and rightfully so.

 

[j4state]

Aside from the irony/sour grapes/little bro aspect of the piece, this "analysis" is hardly prophetic. Incredibly full of fail and makes no sense at any angle.

 

[CycloneRulzzz]

Don't like it. Makes ISU look silly. The response will be "ohh yeah? Where is ISU playing?"

agreed. We look stupid talking junk bout January bowl games when we haven't ever played in one.

 

[Cyclonic1]

Kind of like the sour grapes of your son not making it at ISU?

Jesus H ****** - there have to be some limits even on CF. Taking shots at a CFer's kid has simply got to be over the line.

 

[cytown]

Stupid tweet. Substance of the article is good...but idiotic coming from a 3 and 9 team with four straight losing seasons. Smh

 

[CycloneErik]

Jesus H ****** - there have to be some limits even on CF. Taking shots at a CFer's kid has simply got to be over the line.

And when the kid referred to (Jared Barnett) isn't even the guy's child, but someone he's worked with as a coach, it's over the line and not very bright.

 

[SwirlingFloater]

Maybe try a better-worded tweet. This one is begging for mockery, and deserves it.

What's the point of writing a blog about bowls right now anyway? Remind us that we fell 8 miles short?

I agree. I certainly could have done without the tweet.

The blog makes a point, but it doesn't put ISU football in a better light even for the years we have made a bowl game.

 

[CyBroncos]

Good job out of the athletic department giving the mouth breathing Tavern Hoks ammunition to trash our football season...they had kind of moved on

 

[HFCS]

More ironic than ISU tweeting this...Dan McCarney: January Bowl Head Coach

He has achieved Iowa's ultimate measure of coaching success at North Texas now.

 

[Stewo]

Have we been able to verify that our athletic department isn't run by overly emotional 13 year old girls? Maybe they need to have their Twitter privileges taken away.

 

[Tornado man]

Here's what you have to understand about UT and TAMU, when there is no hype or buildup of a game between those two, at the end of the day it's all about the money. For A&M that will never be a competition and that's why they left the conference. Last year when A&M was winning and Manziel was hot, the UT fan base was focused on Mack Browns future and why they were not good. They really didn't care about A&M. This year as the A&M and Manziel mania fizzled, UT's focus was still on Mack Browns future and why they couldn't finish with the Conference title. Still no concern for A&M. A&M fans could have trashed UT for losing that last one but why. Both teams went 8-4 this year, no one gives a ****. A&M will lose the Manziel hype and UT will lose the Mack Brown distraction. Texas leads the series 76-37-5. It's not even a rivalry.

A&M will never compete with UT with revenue or fan base. And since they are in a different conference, they have no concern with what UT does. Texas will not play in a conference as strong as the SEC. So they have no concern with A&M. No one gives a **** any more. ISU will not compete with Iowa for revenue or fan base. Iowa will not play in a conference as strong as the Big12. It's a wash. Focus on what's important.

Your diminishment of Texas A&M as a football power is comical. You clearly have an anti-Aggie bias in your post. In the last 30 years, A&M's record against Texas is 15-13. I'd call that a "rivalry." A&M may not be Texas in total revenue, but the Aggies have a huge fan base and budget; it's in the top ten in the country. Their 2014 recruiting class is ranked #4 by Scout, #6 by rivals. As part of that class, Sumlin will sign the #1 QB recruit in the nation. You make it sound like A&M will be TTech or Baylor when Johnny Football is gone. They're won't be; they're a national football brand, with tons of more talent coming in, and Texas is now looking up at them.

 

[FootballinTexas]

Your diminishment of Texas A&M as a football power is comical. You clearly have an anti-Aggie bias in your post. In the last 30 years, A&M's record against Texas is 15-13. I'd call that a "rivalry." A&M may not be Texas in total revenue, but the Aggies have a huge fan base and budget; it's in the top ten in the country. Their 2014 recruiting class is ranked #4 by Scout, #6 by rivals. As part of that class, Sumlin will sign the #1 QB recruit in the nation. You make it sound like A&M will be TTech or Baylor when Johnny Football is gone. They're won't be; they're a national football brand, with tons of more talent coming in, and Texas is now looking up at them.

It's not anti-Aggies. I didn't say anywhere in my post that A&M wasn't a football power. The comparison of big brother to little brother like ISU/Iowa was made. I have no dog in that fight. However, "at this point and time" in the state of Texas, A&M is still the little brother due to revenue and fan base. UT is top 5 in both and A&M is not top 10 in either. That's why being in different conferences has allowed the programs to lose some interest in each other. A&M is doing its own thing now. They are progressing but they're still not UT.
As far as the "rivalry", you can set the cut line anywhere you want to try and make it a rivalry. Yes, A&M had a great run in the 80's and early 90's. But I can say in the last 12 years it's 9-3 UT with UT winning 3 of the last 4 before A&M exited the conference.
BTW, I think Kevin Sumlin is an awesome head coach and recruiter. I have listened to him speak at coaches clinics when he was at OU, UH, and last year at A&M. Great guy and leader.

 

[ISUAgronomist]

Not gonna get off the topic of the OP.

 

[FootballinTexas]

LOL.

 

[justcynn]

Fact is Iowa improved this year and Iowa state took a major step backward, getting to a bowl isn't what it used to be period, if it were- Iowa State probably wouldn't have been to one since maybe the first insight bowl, Hawkeye fans are irritating for sure, but I am more concerned with what is happening or isn't happening in Ames.

 

[Tornado man]

However, "at this point and time" in the state of Texas, A&M is still the little brother due to revenue and fan base. UT is top 5 in both and A&M is not top 10 in either.

RANK	SCHOOL	TOTAL REVENUE	TOTAL EXPENSES	TOTAL SUBSIDY	% SUBSIDY
1	Texas	$163,295,115	$138,269,710	$0	0.00
2	Ohio State	$142,043,057	$124,419,412	$0	0.00
3	Michigan	$140,131,187	$115,200,187	$258,885	0.18
4	Alabama	$124,899,945	$108,204,867	$5,461,200	4.37
5	Florida	$120,772,106	$105,102,198	$4,356,457	3.61
6	Texas A&M	$119,702,222	$81,792,118	$5,200,000	4.34
7	LSU	$114,787,786	$101,989,116	$0	0.00
8	Penn State	$108,252,281	$107,389,258	$0	0.00
9	Oklahoma	$106,456,616	$96,250,328	$0	0.00
10	Auburn	$105,951,251	$96,315,831	$4,216,608	3.98

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[00clone]

I guess it depends on who you ask.

Texas A&M Aggies - In Photos: College Football's Most Valuable Teams 2013 - Forbes

Well, given the choice, I'll go with actual data (USA today), rather than a group of people's evaluation of a program's 'value' (Forbes). Read the accompanying article to your link....it's an evaluation by this pimpleface: