Isaiah Moss Transferring

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  1. intrepid27

    intrepid27 Well-Known Member

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    Obviously you do care what we think or you wouldn't have 6+K posts trying to defend the honor of your dirty program.
     
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  2. randomfan44

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    Or I enjoy talking about college basketball.
     
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  3. Go2Guy

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    Exactly; what the heck is going on? Last I heard - in Feb/March, the NCAA said they were still gathering info & evidence and won't take action, "until after the season is complete".
    So what gives - Miller at Zona, Wade at LSU and Self still have jobs ?#?@??
     
  4. dexterhawk

    dexterhawk Well-Known Member

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    I remember when you said Moss sucked...like last season. Weird how things change
     
  5. CyTwins

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    I still think he sucks
     
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  6. NodawayRiverClone

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    Does this summarize recent posts?

    Moss leaving Iowa for KU raises the basketball skill level of both teams. Moss sucked last year. Moss will suck this year.

    Discussing last year's KU bball team is irrelevant. Discussing the totality of KU bball history is. KU fans are just happy they now believe the team has enough skill diversity to again compete for the 3rd spot in the Big 12 this year.
     
  7. randomfan44

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    If Moss shoots 42% from 3 again next year then he will have performed the role requested of him.

    And with the addition of Dok, DeSousa, Moss and the recruiting class, KU will be competing for the Big 12 title and be a serious contender for another trip to the Final Four.
     
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  8. Statefan10

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    I really really wish you had watched Moss play a variety of games instead of looking at his stat line. He was incredibly inconsistent. The reason his numbers didn't show that as much was because he wasn't selfish. When he'd miss 3 shots in a row, he'd shut down and usually wouldn't see the floor anymore, which happened constantly.
     
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  9. BryceC

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    He'll get better coaching at KU for one.

    For two, most players are inconsistent. I've compared him to Svi multiple times. Svi was inconsistent at times. I don't think Self has any delusions about how good Moss is. He's not great. But he can probably fill that Svi junior year production and that was a dang good KU team.
     
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  10. BillBrasky4Cy

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    Honestly, I think Fran drove some of his inconsistencies. Fran has a history of not letting his guys play through a tough shooting night. I think Moss will be a great fit at KU and Self knows how to pull the levers to get the best out of his guys.
     
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  11. Statefan10

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    I guess so. We'll have to wait and see if it was a problem with the school he was at / prior coach, or if indeed is himself.
     
  12. LLCoolJansma

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    Shooting 42% isn't as important as when he is a threat from 3.
    Iowans who watched Moss during his hawkeye career know he will shoot well against lesser competition and low pressure situations but, was on the bench in multiple end of games and high leverage situations.

    Needing him for your assumed B12 title and final four run is problematic. Not to mention playing games in the Phog with a fan base that cares on national TV rather than in IC with half full crowd on the Big 10 network could be an issue by itself.
     
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  13. madguy30

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    Also, derpth.
     
  14. CascadeClone

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    My biz partner is a big Hawk fan (though not overly delusional). His take on Moss is he is super streaky and inconsistent, as mentioned above. He will make 13 in a row, then miss 13 in a row.

    It's ENTIRELY possible some of that inconsistency could be the result of poor coaching - either the physical or the mental aspect i.e. raging Fran in your head.

    Guess we will find out. If KU just wants a threat from 3, Moss will fit the bill, but not to their usual standards and expectations. Maybe a poor man's Svi or Vick. Might be enough to open up Dok a bit, and that's something in itself.
     
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  16. randomfan44

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    He shot a higher 3pt fg% in conference games than in non-con.

    He shot 4-8 from 3 in the NCAA tourney. His most challenging game was at Michigan State and he shot 2-3 from 3 that game. He shot 4-5 from 3 against a good Iowa State tourney team. He shot 3-5 from 3 vs. Tennessee. He shot 6-10 from 3 at tourney team Minnesota.

    Michigan shut him down good but they shut down everyone.

    I think in a full season with a good coach in a good offense with a monster low post advantage and Moss will see more open threes that he ever did at Iowa.
     
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  17. randomfan44

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    Different coach, different teammates, different system, different point in his own career.

    We'll see.
     
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  18. CycloneVet

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    What’s changed he still sucks
     
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  19. CloneGuy8

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    I actually think Moss is pretty good and playing for a good coach will do wonders for him
     
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  20. jmb

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    I think if he is on the floor more he won’t lose the flow of game and disappear. Fran misused him.
     
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