Is there other intelligent life in the universe?

[aeroclone]

If these craft are indeed physical objects then in my opinion the most likely explanation is extraterrestrial. Of the sci-fi type explanations this just seems more plausible than interdimensional or time travel.

I don't find the secret US or foreign tech theory at all plausible. We are talking about craft that can hover in 100 mph wind, change direction and Accelerate to Mach 20 instantly, operate underwater as well as in the air, and do it all without visible means of propulsion or control surfaces.

Just think of how many major scientific and engineering advances would have to be made to do that. An effort on that scale would involve tons of people, companies, gov entities, suppliers, manufacturers etc. And these sightings go back decades. So you are saying that all these people made all these advances and nobody else has stumbled across any of this tech in the next 50 years? This is similar to the moon landing conspiracies, there would just be too many people needing to stay quiet.

Just look at all that was involved with things like the Manhattan project or the Apollo program or the F22, then imagine advances that are orders of magnitude larger than those things, and then try to keep every aspect of its existence and how it works secret for decades. No way.

 

[ISUTex]

If these craft are indeed physical objects then in my opinion the most likely explanation is extraterrestrial. Of the sci-fi type explanations this just seems more plausible than interdimensional or time travel.

I don't find the secret US or foreign tech theory at all plausible. We are talking about craft that can hover in 100 mph wind, change direction and Accelerate to Mach 20 instantly, operate underwater as well as in the air, and do it all without visible means of propulsion or control surfaces.

Just think of how many major scientific and engineering advances would have to be made to do that. An effort on that scale would involve tons of people, companies, gov entities, suppliers, manufacturers etc. And these sightings go back decades. So you are saying that all these people made all these advances and nobody else has stumbled across any of this tech in the next 50 years? This is similar to the moon landing conspiracies, there would just be too many people needing to stay quiet.

Just look at all that was involved with things like the Manhattan project or the Apollo program or the F22, then imagine advances that are orders of magnitude larger than those things, and then try to keep every aspect of its existence and how it works secret for decades. No way.

So it's Chewbacca and Han Solo then?

 

[MugNight]

Drove through Iowa City a few times. I have my doubts

 

[aeroclone]

So it's Chewbacca and Han Solo then?

Take you pick. But from what we have seen in the last month it sure as hell isn't Russian tech. And I sincerely doubt that China has something this advanced right now, let alone decades ago.

 

[CloneIce]

I have some fun headcanon which says any UFOs we find are actually time traveling future humans.

I’ve definitely pondered that one as well !

 

[CloneIce]

So it's Chewbacca and Han Solo then?

Han looked pretty human to me…

You don’t seriously find the idea of intelligent life outside our solar system to be unlikely do you? Now, interstellar travel is another story, but of course a fighter jet would seem unfathomable 300 years ago, and downright god like a millennia ago to us humans.

 

[CloneIce]

Ya

If these craft are indeed physical objects then in my opinion the most likely explanation is extraterrestrial. Of the sci-fi type explanations this just seems more plausible than interdimensional or time travel.

I don't find the secret US or foreign tech theory at all plausible. We are talking about craft that can hover in 100 mph wind, change direction and Accelerate to Mach 20 instantly, operate underwater as well as in the air, and do it all without visible means of propulsion or control surfaces.

Just think of how many major scientific and engineering advances would have to be made to do that. An effort on that scale would involve tons of people, companies, gov entities, suppliers, manufacturers etc. And these sightings go back decades. So you are saying that all these people made all these advances and nobody else has stumbled across any of this tech in the next 50 years? This is similar to the moon landing conspiracies, there would just be too many people needing to stay quiet.

Just look at all that was involved with things like the Manhattan project or the Apollo program or the F22, then imagine advances that are orders of magnitude larger than those things, and then try to keep every aspect of its existence and how it works secret for decades. No way.

i agree, if they are physical objects being the big caveat. I don’t see another country having tech that advanced and I don’t believe we do either.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

There probably is.

But at the same time, it probably isn't all that interested in us, so any of the "UFOs" we know of probably aren't aliens.

The scale of the level of technology required to achieve interstellar travel is absolutely massive. Way, way ahead of where we are now. The energy requirements alone are way beyond anything we can think of. We would be pretty uninteresting for a civilization of that technological level.

You need to harness the power of galaxies to travel hundreds of light years.

 

[simply1]

That is possible. But on the other hand, for a civilization to have such an amazing level id technology and continue to learn and expand without wiping itself out, it could mean they have moved beyond solving conflicts through force or war. Or, they could simply not be a warlike species to begin with. They could be completely different than humanity.

It’s strange to me that people think aliens would advance so far technologically, but not morally and ethically.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

Humans would be basically bugs to a civilization like that. They would like our planet however, and probably would have the same amount of moral conscious about eradicating us as we would swatting flies.

Have to disagree, if any civilization, has overcome all the hurdles of interstellar space flight, they would not see a planet like Earth, as a threat to them in anyway.

I tend to think differently, that they are already here, first contact was made years ago, and they are helping us along, watching over us, until we reach a point in development, when we as a world, can handle, that we are just a voice in the chorus, not a solo performer in a concert.

 

[alarson]

Humans would be basically bugs to a civilization like that. They would like our planet however, and probably would have the same amount of moral conscious about eradicating us as we would swatting flies.

The good news in that regard is that the earth offers little in terms of unique resources that a civilization like that might need. More often such a civilization would find more benefit mining comets and asteroids for those resources as they wouldnt have to pull those out of a gravity well..

 

[Remo Gaggi]

Life and intelligence is abundant in this universe with the only exception being in Iowa City.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

Without converting to a singularity or energy, I don't see how a civilization could last millions of years.

 

[clonedude]

Without converting to a singularity or energy, I don't see how a civilization could last millions of years.

I wasn't trying to be exact.... I was half joking anyway.

 

[HFCS]

I think it’s pretty possible AI could outlive civilizations including ours, doesn’t even have to be a T2 thing where they turn on us. Good chance we encounter AI vs biological advanced life.

 

[CascadeClone]

Take you pick. But from what we have seen in the last month it sure as hell isn't Russian tech. And I sincerely doubt that China has something this advanced right now, let alone decades ago.

On the surface yes. But it could be a leapfrog of tech tho. Quantum physics advances will look more like magic and special effects than conventional advances.

 

[GTO]

Of course he is doing it for the money but he is right. The level of technology that will develop because of a Mars mission will be amazing. The tech that came from the moon missions has been beneficial.

What do you mean? Like photoshop?
-conspiracy theorists (probably)

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

On the surface yes. But it could be a leapfrog of tech tho. Quantum physics advances will look more like magic and special effects than conventional advances.

In theory. We have yet to do anything crazy beyond teleport protons. The amount of energy we need to advance from where we are is pretty massive. Fission is getting close though.

 

[besserheimerphat]

I have some fun headcanon which says any UFOs we find are actually time traveling future humans.

I've also wondered this, or if it's a multiverse situation where one or more timelines have discovered how to transit between them.

I have a little different take on the "odds." Most people say that there are so many planets, then surely somewhere else life got started. I look at it as there is only one planet that we know for sure has the conditions necessary for life, and it has life. We're batting 1.000. We've identified planets that have a few of the criteria (right kind of star, right distance from star) but we haven't been able to surmise if they have the other conditions that we know are necessary - water, atmosphere, etc. It may be that life is very common.

Certainly "intelligent life" is less common due to asteroids, radiation from supernovae, etc. And others already brought up the timing issue on discovering each other. But I'm pretty convinced there IS life out there, and we will find it IF we can advance our science before a big rock in the sky happens to stop by.

I think the sun swallowing our planet is the least of our concerns. I'm a lot more worried about nuclear war or pandemic in the short term, climate change in the medium term, and asteroids in the "long term."

 

[JRE1975]

The good news in that regard is that the earth offers little in terms of unique resources that a civilization like that might need. More often such a civilization would find more benefit mining comets and asteroids for those resources as they wouldnt have to pull those out of a gravity well..

Unless they looking for food