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I'll let the football gurus talk about our strengths and weaknesses because I'm not really a football guy but I just want to say that your TE might be good but he isn't Charlie Kolar. Kmet might be in the discussion for best TE but he isn't the correct answer.

I'll preface this by saying that I'm not interested in picking a fight, but I thought of your post when I came across this article on The Athletic about the top draft prospects by position. Charlie Kolar is a redshirt sophomore and would be eligible for the draft, correct?

https://theathletic.com/1447281/201...ffensive-tackle-class-exactly-what-nfl-needs/

Tight ends
1. *Cole Kmet, Notre Dame (6-6, 255, 4.68)
2. Hunter Bryant, Washington (6-2, 244, 4.63)
3. Jared Pinkney, Vanderbilt (6-4, 250, 4.78)
4. Albert Okwuegbunam, Missouri (6-4, 264, 4.76)
5. Adam Trautman, Dayton (6-5, 256, 4.76)
A quarterback his entire life, Trautman moved to tight end in college and caught his first career pass (in his life) in 2016. The level of competition is obviously an asterisk on his scouting report, but he was easily the best athlete on the field on his game tapes, showing a loose body type, strong routes and aggressive ball skills. The Senior Bowl will be an important step in his evaluation and it wouldn’t be a surprise if Trautman is a “riser” throughout the process.

6. Brycen Hopkins, Purdue (6-4, 247, 4.79)
7. Harrison Bryant, Florida Atlantic (6-5, 244, 4.78)
8. *Colby Parkinson, Stanford (6-6, 244, 4.74)
9. *Matt Bushman, BYU (6-5, 242, 4.78)
10. *Tony Poljan, Central Michigan (6-6, 255, 4.82)
 

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I'll preface this by saying that I'm not interested in picking a fight, but I thought of your post when I came across this article on The Athletic about the top draft prospects by position. Charlie Kolar is a redshirt sophomore and would be eligible for the draft, correct?
https://theathletic.com/1447281/201...ffensive-tackle-class-exactly-what-nfl-needs/
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I'll go by all of the Big12 coaches Kolar played against who would easily have him in the top ten, if not top 5, of draft edible TEs.
Charlie (and a couple others) may be the exception, but I don't think any Cyclone fan is trying to say we are going to 'out talent' the ND squad.
 

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I'll go by all of the Big12 coaches Kolar played against who would easily have him in the top ten, if not top 5, of draft edible TEs.
Charlie (and a couple others) may be the exception, but I don't think any Cyclone fan is trying to say we are going to 'out talent' the ND squad.

I'm not familiar enough with Kolar to give a proper assessment of his skill set, or his draft prospects, but I've read enough to know that he's certainly a weapon for the ISU offense. It wouldn't have crossed my mind as I read through the Athletic article had it not been for the poster that originally replied and said that Kolar was clearly and without question better than Kmet.

I know that when I read through similar articles, there are sometimes ND players that I feel might be overlooked. Chase Claypool, ND's best WR, is an example of that. Any opinions on by Kolar isn't listed in the top ten?
 

CTTB78

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I'm not familiar enough with Kolar to give a proper assessment of his skill set, or his draft prospects..... Any opinions on by Kolar isn't listed in the top ten?

You may be an example of a lot of college football fans (and writers), they've never seen Kolar or Iowa State play. Couple that with the fact that we are not historically known for TE talent.
What is exiting is that we have chance to change some of this on the 28th with a nationally televised game against a blue blood in ND.
 

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I'll preface this by saying that I'm not interested in picking a fight, but I thought of your post when I came across this article on The Athletic about the top draft prospects by position. Charlie Kolar is a redshirt sophomore and would be eligible for the draft, correct?

https://theathletic.com/1447281/201...ffensive-tackle-class-exactly-what-nfl-needs/

Tight ends
1. *Cole Kmet, Notre Dame (6-6, 255, 4.68)
2. Hunter Bryant, Washington (6-2, 244, 4.63)
3. Jared Pinkney, Vanderbilt (6-4, 250, 4.78)
4. Albert Okwuegbunam, Missouri (6-4, 264, 4.76)
5. Adam Trautman, Dayton (6-5, 256, 4.76)
A quarterback his entire life, Trautman moved to tight end in college and caught his first career pass (in his life) in 2016. The level of competition is obviously an asterisk on his scouting report, but he was easily the best athlete on the field on his game tapes, showing a loose body type, strong routes and aggressive ball skills. The Senior Bowl will be an important step in his evaluation and it wouldn’t be a surprise if Trautman is a “riser” throughout the process.

6. Brycen Hopkins, Purdue (6-4, 247, 4.79)
7. Harrison Bryant, Florida Atlantic (6-5, 244, 4.78)
8. *Colby Parkinson, Stanford (6-6, 244, 4.74)
9. *Matt Bushman, BYU (6-5, 242, 4.78)
10. *Tony Poljan, Central Michigan (6-6, 255, 4.82)
Having read the article, I’m not sure how many “draft eligible sophomores” the author included—aside from Cuba Hubbard, who is blatantly hard to miss.
 

CTTB78

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Having read the article, I’m not sure how many “draft eligible sophomores” the author included—aside from Cuba Hubbard, who is blatantly hard to miss.

Agree on Hubbard. But if the writer was trying to be somewhat informed, he would have seen that Kolar's numbers have him along side the top TEs in the country.
 

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ISU usually tries to establish an inside run game that doesn't produce much. We're much better off-tackle and wide but don't run too many plays outside. Breece Hall is both fast and powerful, but the OL doesn't give him a ton of help. For 5 returning starters and I think 3 seniors, they are pretty average.
 

CTTB78

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You may be an example of a lot of college football fans (and writers), they've never seen Kolar or Iowa State play......

My apologies to the AP writers. After the two Bryants, the AP has Kolar the third best TE in the country.
KenND, thoughts?
 

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I'll preface this by saying that I'm not interested in picking a fight, but I thought of your post when I came across this article on The Athletic about the top draft prospects by position. Charlie Kolar is a redshirt sophomore and would be eligible for the draft, correct?

https://theathletic.com/1447281/201...ffensive-tackle-class-exactly-what-nfl-needs/

Tight ends
1. *Cole Kmet, Notre Dame (6-6, 255, 4.68)
2. Hunter Bryant, Washington (6-2, 244, 4.63)
3. Jared Pinkney, Vanderbilt (6-4, 250, 4.78)
4. Albert Okwuegbunam, Missouri (6-4, 264, 4.76)
5. Adam Trautman, Dayton (6-5, 256, 4.76)
A quarterback his entire life, Trautman moved to tight end in college and caught his first career pass (in his life) in 2016. The level of competition is obviously an asterisk on his scouting report, but he was easily the best athlete on the field on his game tapes, showing a loose body type, strong routes and aggressive ball skills. The Senior Bowl will be an important step in his evaluation and it wouldn’t be a surprise if Trautman is a “riser” throughout the process.

6. Brycen Hopkins, Purdue (6-4, 247, 4.79)
7. Harrison Bryant, Florida Atlantic (6-5, 244, 4.78)
8. *Colby Parkinson, Stanford (6-6, 244, 4.74)
9. *Matt Bushman, BYU (6-5, 242, 4.78)
10. *Tony Poljan, Central Michigan (6-6, 255, 4.82)
Bump.
https://apnews.com/09ff7f4dba45126d077bf440e4046f8b
 

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As an opponent of ISU here's my take.

Weakness is special teams. Their kickoffs are often short and returnable.
Strength is quarterback play. Purdy can chuck-it with the best of them.
Defense is set-up to stop B12 passing games and thus can be a weakness against power football.
Offense is really good if/when balanced.
 

KenND

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My apologies to the AP writers. After the two Bryants, the AP has Kolar the third best TE in the country.
KenND, thoughts?

This is an All-American team list and not an NFL draft projection, so the aim that the two sources are taking are not the same. Do you think that Kolar had a better year but agree that Kmet is a better NFL prospect?
 
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