Iowa State Basketball is a Mid-Major Roster

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  1. Legend Hawk

    Legend Hawk Well-Known Member

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    Sure, makes perfect sense, that might have been the plan. Fran also couldn't have known then that he would be down 3 starters at the beginning of Jan. If Patrick were healthy, he would have the redshirt taken off and he would be playing.
     
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  2. CyTwins

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    I was told recently the plan all along was they were going to test it out to see if he could compete and if not seek a medical redshirt due to his weight
     
  3. TRYHARDER

    TRYHARDER Well-Known Member

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    Nothing unreasonable about that. Hawks came into the season with 2 questionable and have had 2 unforeseen injuries. Hard for anybody to overcome.
     
  4. CyTwins

    CyTwins Well-Known Member

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    Not really. Fran just took Evelyn instead of landing a good player
     
  5. TRYHARDER

    TRYHARDER Well-Known Member

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    Evelyn was not what the Hawks needed. Def a miss there.
     
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  6. Legend Hawk

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    I think Iowa showed even without Jordan they could still win. Losing two other starters and a 4* Fr though is just too much to overcome.
     
  7. Crookedhatkid

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    My point is, considering Fran was very aware there was a very good chance he wasn’t going to have Patrick and Bohannon all offseason. So you leave yourself vulnerable to being very hurt by 1 or 2 injuries. I guess I just see it as him overcoming a problem he created.
     
  8. TRYHARDER

    TRYHARDER Well-Known Member

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    Can't really put it all on 1 player though. At least Fran recognizes it and Evelyn's minutes were down the other night. Prohm keeping Nixon and Jacobson on the floor as much as he has is the real head scratcher. That is looking really dumb.
     
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    The real issue nobody saw coming this year is Prohm's Hot Seat is way hotter vs Fran's.
     
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  10. CyTwins

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    Connor plays 29 mpg
     
  11. TRYHARDER

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    This season is pretty close to dumpster fire status for Prohm. If Haliburton is gone what does next season look like?
     
  12. CyCrazy

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    Worse than this year.
     
  13. TRYHARDER

    TRYHARDER Well-Known Member

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    That number would not be nearly as high with a healthy Bohannon. You have a healthy roster and can't even compete with your starting 5 at this point.
     
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    It's tough to see how we are even sniffing the tourney until 22-23 at the earliest, that's assuming every single player develops and all recruits live up to their billing.
     
  15. CyTwins

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    We have 3 good players and everyone else isn't good. Not sure what you want me to say
     
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    Not to be that guy.... But I saw it coming. I was pretty out on Prohm last year when we had a great roster (4 nba guys) and finished 6th. He relied on Shayok and THT to play hero ball to win games. Heck, he couldn't even coach his team on how to inbound the ball properly.

    I gave him a pass for 17-18 because there was no talent there. But last year? gross.

    For this year, most transfers usually take time to figure out their role if they ever do. Bolton is starting to figure out his role, but it looks like the fanfare over the waiver was a little unwarranted. And We should almost ask the NCAA if we can tag team Nixon and someone for offense... woof.

    Great players mask the flaws of mediocre coaches. Prohm looked like a genius when he had 7 NBA guys on the roster. Villanova and Virginia maybe have that many and they are winning titles...
     
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  17. HawkJRP

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    A really bad roster built by Prohm, no other way to look at it.
     
  18. CyTwins

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    THT leaving killed it unfortunately. I think he expected it from Lindell
     
  19. Crookedhatkid

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    It is a terribly constructed roster. Leaving the ISU fans looking at missing the tourney for the second time in 3 years. Which is unacceptable for a coach at a good basketball program like ISU. Probably could get away with that at other places.
     
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  20. HawkJRP

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    Insisting on playing Jacobson at the 4 by Prohm reminds of Fran trying to fit White at the 3 a few years back. It just doesnt work.

    Technically he is going to get away with it unless you think he gets fired at the end of the year.
     

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