Iowa State at Iowa predictions.

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  1. AuH2O

    AuH2O Well-Known Member

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    Can't believe all the Iowa predictions. Most hawk fans that pay attention understand the following:
    - Iowa returned everybody and just had to plug in Wieskamp. This is a very veteran team that had little to adjust. That means they better make hay early in the year when almost every other team is still trying to figure out roles, rotations, etc. Yes, Wieskamp changes things, but pretty much (should) just be taking minutes from guys that aren't very good. So while other teams are making big improvements each week, for the most part Iowa is what it is.
    - They were hanging their hat on the Oregon win, which has clearly turned out to not be a very impressive win. They aren't a good team right now, and that was a pure name/new talent ranking. They may end up being pretty good - talent suggests it, but they're not a good team right now.
    - Yes Pitt's better than last year, but they were the worst power conference team in the country. They just got beat by Niagra, so there's that.
    - UConn is a decent win, but not great. They are not great from 3, so the pack it in and take your chances zone approach worked against them.
    - Combine that with a deflating home loss to UW with a drubbing at MSU, with ISU and Purdue coming up, it's a good chance the wheels are falling off the wagon.

    ISU 76, Iowa 69 - Iowa goes pack and pray zone, ISU falls in love with the three too much, but adjusts in the 2nd half to get a nice road win.
     
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  2. awd4cy

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    I believe so. I can’t remember if that was his first game back or if he was back the one before.

    Edit: looks like he missed that tourney over thanksgiving and maybe another game after it. Played in the Omaha game right before Iowa.
     
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  3. FerShizzle

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    #83 FerShizzle, Dec 5, 2018
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    Doubling down on the post seems like playing with fire and leads to too many wide open 3’s. Don’t want to give them a chance to get hot from the outside.
     
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  4. CoKane

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    We are without a doubt the better team here, and if this was a regular conference game or something of that level I wouldn't feel too bad about picking a 15 point win. That being said, this is the singular game Fran seems to be able to get his guys up for, and combine that with us being a young team going into our first true road game, things could get a little dicey. Gonna say Cyclones by 6.
     
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  5. TyCloneHoops

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    I don't really care what the score is, I think we come out with a win, but I do think this is going to be a major statement game as to how much fun these guys have and how well they play together. I've never seen an ISU team play this selflessly and have so much confidence in each other. & **** Iowa.
     
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  6. SilverBack

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    You literally spend your whole existence putting down Iowa and yet you pick them to beat Iowa State every time you're posed the question.
     
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  7. madguy30

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    The thing I've seen with Iowa's zone: UW and MSU were still able to drive and dish through it.

    I think Iowa will be busier tomorrow night, but playing a certain kind of defense and actually being able to play defense are different.
     
  8. Psiclone

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    I seem to recall quite a bit of doubling the post in Maui. Will be a good test of post defense as Iowa has 2 players who may require it down low. If not, Jacobson could get into early foul trouble. Either way, Lard will be relied on to play more minutes.
     
  9. intrepid27

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    I don't know about that......... last time I was at Carver the crowd started throwing their dentures out on the floor after a bad call by the officials.
     
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  10. cycloneG

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    I don't consider a dig a true double which is what they've been doing a lot this season.

     
  11. cyowan

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    #91 cyowan, Dec 5, 2018
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    Not to mention the rest of the team is guys who've played in big road games before: NWB, Jacobson, Shayok, Lard, Talley. CHA isn't that intimidating of a place to play, even in this game. Not sure why people think the "hostile" environment will be that big of a factor.
     
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  12. CY88CE11

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    My prediction: Eric Steyer outscores baby Fran.
     
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  13. Lineup

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    i hope Lard gets his head straight and has a great game
     
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  14. moores2

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    Take a look back at the Texas southern game and the Arizona game. Really the only post presence we have faced this year.
     
  15. BillBrasky4Cy

    BillBrasky4Cy Well-Known Member

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    Honestly. my biggest takeaway from the Oregon and Uconn games was that apparently neither team has ever scene a zone defense.

    At this point the book is out on how you attack Iowa's man D and how you attack their zone. Iowa has been exposed an any team with decent guard play should carve them up.
     
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    Exactly how much time do you have on your hands? (He asks as he posts from work)
     
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    They've been applying secondary pressure to the post but it hasn't been through doubling. They've been digging like crazy though.

     
  18. Dingus

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    Lard has a big game and people remember how good he is.

    ISU wins 82-76.
     
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    Isn't that part of the put down?
     
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  20. ClonesTwenty1

    ClonesTwenty1 Well-Known Member

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    75-70 Iowa State.


    I swear if we lose to this Iowa team. If we the Clones pull this off I feel like this will tilt Iowa in a downward spiral for the rest of the season. Three straight losses for them would be a disaster.
     
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