I would love to sit down with Mangino....

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  1. clonedude

    clonedude Well-Known Member

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    .... after he's taken a truth serum, and then watch every single one of ISU's football games from last year.

    I consider myself pretty knowledgeable about football (insert jokes here, I know), but I would love to hear Mangino's flat out honest critique of our offense last year.
     
  2. isuno1fan

    isuno1fan Well-Known Member

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    I would wait to see the offense's production this year before you assume it is going to be head and shoulders better than last year.
     
  3. ajk4st8

    ajk4st8 Well-Known Member

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    Tom Herman agrees. Winning with our talent and/or depth is pretty tough.

    The type of guys that we think are REALLY good for us are a dime a dozen in the Big 12.
     
  4. DuckDynastyCy

    DuckDynastyCy Active Member

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    They were at KU in 2007, too.
     
  5. clonedude

    clonedude Well-Known Member

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    I tend to agree with this, however, this year I'd at least like to see some intelligent playcalling. Whether or not we have the talent to make it work is a whole other issue, but I'd at least like to see plays ran that make sense.

    Running your QB more times than all your RBs combined is not intelligent playcalling. Not making any teams that blitz you pay for it by throwing a quick slant to the TE or WR in the area vacated by the blitzing LBs, is not smart playcalling. And trying to run it down Iowa's throat for 3 quarters, when their weakness is their secondary, is not smart playcalling.
     
  6. bigsag

    bigsag Active Member

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    Seriously, you never would want to sit down with an actual football coach and review film of a game. Within ten minutes, it would become apparent to you, that you actually know nothing about the game of football. A coach would point out things that you likely have NEVER even noticed. You may even decide that you know so little that you conclude that perhaps you should no longer post your football opinions on CF. None of us want that.........
     
  7. cmjh10

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    I think people will be in for a rude awakening if they think this offense will be as good as they think. If you look at teams that get new OC's who run a different system, the first season isnt as good as some thought it would be, but the second season is usually where the lightbulbs come on.
     
  8. GTO

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    I read the thread title and automatically though: "...for lunch". Is that bad? But in all seriousness, I know many are saying we should temper our expectations for the offense. The way I see it, he is not just taking last year's offensive team but a potentially better team on offense than last year. Wimberly is available and healthy, and newcomers Lazard and Montgomery should be able to contribute. Add a healthy QB, and we might have something.

    The other thing is that he is taking over for a bad OC (not even a mediocre one), so in comparison the offense should look that much better anyway. Sure, we won't be Baylor-like on offense, but after how horrible we were last year, any step in the right direction will feel like a huge improvement.
     
  9. clonedude

    clonedude Well-Known Member

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    Ha. Everyone thinks they are a comedian these days I guess?

    By the way, I would find it fascinating to sit down with an actual football coach.
     
  10. OPButtrey

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    I actually do think we will be considerably better on offense. Mess was bad and Herman is only good against equal talent. Mangino is experienced at doing more with less. Add healthy QB and healthy O-line and I believe we will be very competitive.
     
  11. bigsag

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    Aaaa..... I wasn't joking............
     
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    ... and destroy some Hickory Park together.
     
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    It's funny how nearly every thread devolves into the same conversation.
     
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    swarthmoreCY Well-Known Member

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    #14 swarthmoreCY, Aug 15, 2014
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    Getting to the point where it is simply a talent issue would be head and shoulders above the past.

    And I bet Herman would agree- which is why he was not a good fit. All offenses do better when you have the superior talent, but some require it. Winning with our talent and/or depth takes a talented OC.
     
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    Basement coaches! UNITE!
     
  16. Luth4Cy

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    I think he'd tell you what he's said since he's came to Iowa State: there's enough talent to be successful, but that talent was not used correctly last season.
     
  17. Rods79

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    Hate to call for a link...but did he actually say that bolded part?
     
  18. 00clone

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    I think it was more along the lines of "we just have to figure out how to put the pieces together" or something of that general thought line.
     
  19. Luth4Cy

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    He didn't, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say it was implied. If he really thinks it was used correctly than I don't know what the hell he's doing here, because then nothings going to improve this year.
     
  20. CyCloned

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    I for one, am looking forward to seeing the MM offense in action. It may not be hitting on all cylinders right out of the gate, but I think some of you guys will be surprised how much better an offense can be with a real OC, with a real plan instead of a guy wanting his players to watch ESPN's play of the day to see what they are doing wrong.
     

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