Hy-Vee's weirdest business decision yet?

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This thread is a good reminder that another Costco is coming to the area soon-ish. No drama, no flailing around trying to find a gimmick that sticks. Just good prices and good quality.
And COSTCO employees actually don't look like they hate being there.
 
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It wouldn't be CF without the weekly bash Hy-Vee thread! Seems for each of you who hate the place, there are 5 other people that love it, so I guess they're doing OK.

I'm not a fanatic of the place by any means, but their selection (in food AND beer/liquor) alone keeps me coming back. If you pay attention to sales you can get most things at or below Fareway/Target prices, so I think the price thing is overblown. And no I don't need shoes or bath bombs from my grocery store, but it also doesn't hurt me. Even with that 'wasted space', they have 3x the selection of Fareway on everything not meat - good luck if you're wanting more than 1-2 flavors/brands of yogurt/chips/cheese/applesauce/etc from Fareway.

I too get sick of the plebes arguing over which poors store they spend their measly wages at. I only shop Whole Foods but if I’m slumming and need a specific organic item I will go to Trader’s Joes.
 
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Put me in the camp of people who will happily pay a little more for a store that is clean, well lit, with a good selection and helpful staff.

Aldi and Fareway stores just feel dumpy to me. Walmart has dumpy stores to go along with blah employees and customers. Target is fine for store and staff but lacking in selection.

I think HyVee has everything they need to win in their space, they just need to get back to who they are and execute the heck out of it.
 

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Yeah I am in the "neutral on hyvee" segment. it's not as expensive as people say, and if you shop the ads it is competitive with Fareway. They do have really good selection generally, produce usually very good.

I am NOT a fan of the "upscale" hyvee layouts they are going to (e.g. Edgewood road in CR) with the short aisles and large open areas with their food court stations around it. Its designed to make you stay longer, and they hope you spend more. Plus that stuff is all higher margin I would guess. It's sort of like gas stations - they really want you to come inside and impulse buy a bunch of high margin pop, donuts, chips, etc; that's where the money is.

HyVee's everyday shelf prices is really high.
 

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Caseys hasnt made awesome pizza for a while now. its not the same product it was a decade ago. there is literally no reason to go to that trash store. i will die on this hill

You just have to find a good oven. Hint: if you walk in the door and the Casey's has more than one bathroom order at your own risk.
 
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Put me in the camp of people who will happily pay a little more for a store that is clean, well lit, with a good selection and helpful staff.

Aldi and Fareway stores just feel dumpy to me. Walmart has dumpy stores to go along with blah employees and customers. Target is fine for store and staff but lacking in selection.

I think HyVee has everything they need to win in their space, they just need to get back to who they are and execute the heck out of it.

Depends where you are. There are lots of places (Overland Park is where I live for reference) where the Aldi's are far from janky.

Other than buying their "fresh" meat, which I have found to be a very risky proposition, Aldi knocks it out of the park in the value and layout department. Basically everything I would go into Aldi for is located on the periphery of the store. I can literally pull up, shop, and have 130 bucks in groceries (or more) in 15 minutes. There literally not another store you can do that in. And it's awesome.
 
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Put me in the camp of people who will happily pay a little more for a store that is clean, well lit, with a good selection and helpful staff.

Aldi and Fareway stores just feel dumpy to me. Walmart has dumpy stores to go along with blah employees and customers. Target is fine for store and staff but lacking in selection.

I think HyVee has everything they need to win in their space, they just need to get back to who they are and execute the heck out of it.

I think that's the point everyone is trying to make...
 

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Depends where you are. There are lots of places (Overland Park is where I live for reference) where the Aldi's are far from janky.

Other than buying their "fresh" meat, which I have found to be a very risky proposition, Aldi knocks it out of the park in the value and layout department. Basically everything I would go into Aldi for is located on the periphery of the store. I can literally pull up, shop, and have 130 bucks in groceries (or more) in 15 minutes. There literally not another store you can do that in. And it's awesome.

You near 159th and Metcalf? Still not my cup of tea but it is a nicer Aldis.

That said, that really isn't what HyVee needs to compete against. There aren't a lot of upscale Aldi locations around the HV footprint. And it is still a different level of selection and services than what HyVee offers even if you toss out the crap they shouldn't do like shoes, bath bombs, and walk in clinics. HyVee at its core is adequately differentiated.
 

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You near 159th and Metcalf? Still not my cup of tea but it is a nicer Aldis.

That said, that really isn't what HyVee needs to compete against. There aren't a lot of upscale Aldi locations around the HV footprint. And it is still a different level of selection and services than what HyVee offers even if you toss out the crap they shouldn't do like shoes, bath bombs, and walk in clinics. HyVee at its core is adequately differentiated.
There is a small chain of liquor stores your way called Lukas that I am in love with.
 

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It wouldn't be CF without the weekly bash Hy-Vee thread! Seems for each of you who hate the place, there are 5 other people that love it, so I guess they're doing OK.

I'm not a fanatic of the place by any means, but their selection (in food AND beer/liquor) alone keeps me coming back. If you pay attention to sales you can get most things at or below Fareway/Target prices, so I think the price thing is overblown. And no I don't need shoes or bath bombs from my grocery store, but it also doesn't hurt me. Even with that 'wasted space', they have 3x the selection of Fareway on everything not meat - good luck if you're wanting more than 1-2 flavors/brands of yogurt/chips/cheese/applesauce/etc from Fareway.

I used to be a big Hy-Vee guy. I just don't like what they are becoming. All of the stuff they are adding IMO takes away from the experience because I can't get through the store quickly. That's 100% my goal in a grocery store. There is nothing you can add to a grocery shopping experience to make it something I want to actually experience.
 

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I mean, I guess I won't fault a company for trying. But I find it interesting that for some businesses, its ok to expand beyond their core product, but for others its not.

For example, McDonalds core product is fast food, mainly burgers, chicken, and fries. Then, I believe in the 90's, and 2000's they started investing and expanding in to other areas, which investors loved. Then investors didn't love the idea and demanded that they had to go back to their core product. I just find the idea of what wall street things a business should do is fascinating as they contradicts themselves a lot.
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I actually don’t think this is a weird idea. I had an idea in college of a grocery store that only sells smaller portions of items (pretty much the opposite of Sam’s Club/Costco) called Single Serve.
My professor hated the idea but I still think the single college crowd/cougars would have shopped there.