How far are we willing to go to win?

[intrepid27]

In addition to talent you have to have teamwork to win. If there are players who hurt morale and teamwork they need to be gone. It takes a lot of talent to overcome hurting the attitude of the other 10 guys on the field.

If you dont keep some level of disapline and fairness amongst players it can hurt the entire program.

 

[VeloClone]

I find it ironic that we clamour that it is on the coaching staff that they have player defections but then it is also on the coaches that they don't keep cancers on the team because they just need to ignore the problems and keep the talent. They need to either keep the cancers which will mean they will have other players defecting and a team that doesn't trust each other or the coaches or they cut out the cancers and have a little less talent but a team. ISU will never overwhelm other teams with talent, they need to trust each other and play with the team first.

A good team can be greater than the sum of its parts.

 

[FanatiClone]

To answer your question, No. They shouldn't have been kicked off.

If you're Alabama and your best players at a position do something stupid do you think they kick them off the team? Absolutely not.

Yeah, we should all be able to show up for meetings whenever the hell we feel like it, and disregard directives given by the boss man. **** rules. Rules suck. Anarchy is the only way...if you're good enough of course.

 

[Stewo]

I'd probably go to 3rd base, but that's it.

 

[ruxCYtable]

To directly answer the OP's question, I'd give up a testicle.

 

[GTO]

To directly answer the OP's question, I'd give up a testicle.

Yeah, no big deal. You have two more.

 

[besserheimerphat]

THIS. Everybody needs to remember that the TEAM wanted Coe off because of his attitude. The Team had two separate votes and he failed both times.

Also, I believe Irving was expelled (couldn't find a link) so even if Rhoads wanted to keep him on he couldn't. I did see that there's only one "Irving" in the ISU directory, and it ain't David.

 

[BigLame]

THIS. Everybody needs to remember that the TEAM wanted Coe off because of his attitude. The Team had two separate votes and he failed both times.

We also lost Nick Kron & Austin Krick. Think this happened before Coe & Irving 'left' the team.

Don't know if they would have made a difference, but they were 2 upperclassmen rather than RS-freshmen. Maybe we don't get Taylor or Pierson without open schollies - who knows, but there was dissension within the team particularly within that DL-unit

 

[CycloneWanderer]

Honor Before Victory. Don't stain the name of Jack Trice with anything less.

 

[bosco]

I'd probably go to 3rd base, but that's it.

Floozy

 

[AMarner32]

To directly answer the OP's question, I'd give up a testicle.

Which one?

 

[ruxCYtable]

Which one?

Buyer's choice.

 

[ISUFan22]

Comical thread.

- wildly known those 2 were doing more harm than good on the team. I believe they were a reason we had one player leave the program from the defensive line
- interesting assumptions about how good those 2 were. Coe was an unknown and Irving showed some promise, but was always slow off the ball

 

[SouthJerseyCy]

Comical thread.

- wildly known those 2 were doing more harm than good on the team. I believe they were a reason we had one player leave the program from the defensive line
- interesting assumptions about how good those 2 were. Coe was an unknown and Irving showed some promise, but was always slow off the ball

Coe was our best defender late in the year of 2013. And that was in his first year playing the position.

Yes, maybe they were cancers and needed to be cut, but it also says something about the rest of the team if they can't beat out the slackers.

 

[joefrog]

Notice how when Iowa football was winning the most, they also had a heck of a lot of problems with the law? Is there a correlation? Sure seemed to be.

 

[NorthCyd]

I thought it was interesting when reading tweets from Nebraska players; I cant remember which, but one of them commented on "yeah right, do you know how hard it is to get people to come here?". For the Midwest I actually believe that Lincoln has come a long ways as far as College allure goes, and if Lincoln is a hard sell for anything more than 9 win teams, Ames is a real bear.

Places like Waco suck, but we know that the weather keeps a lot of talent in the South regardless of the town.

Hopefully its time that Paul realizes that we have to go the JUCO route in order to be successful. Those guys don't care where they play, as long as they get a chance to make it.

People may think Waco sucks, but it is centrally located among a lot of the population centers in Texas. It's a much better location than many give it credit.

 

[Wesley]

You do realize we're not exactly lighting the world on fire with JUCOs right? There's a reason most of them end up at JUCO...they aren't very good of football players and JUCOs for the most part do a terrible job developing them or they didn't qualify out of high school and if they continue to develop (unlikely) the big boys will pick them up to fill a need. Are there exceptions to the rule? Absolutely. Are the majority of them going to contribute on a decent team? Nope.

Frankly, our coaches' abilities to analyze talent has been pretty pathetic for the most part.

Still we are probably taking who we can get.

 

[Wesley]

People may think Waco sucks, but it is centrally located among a lot of the population centers in Texas. It's a much better location than many give it credit.

Seventy miles to Austin. Ninety miles to Dallas. College Station and Lubbock are more off the map.

 

[FanatiClone]

Waco sucks, but Baylor is it's own little oasis that bares no resemblance to the rest of Waco.

 

[CYphyllis]

You also have to remember that if we had those two, we don't have Jensen. They were a cancer on the team in terms of attitude and moral. I don't think we win any more games with them playing, and perhaps we lose more.

Yeah, I'm going to take either of those two over Jensen every single time. I'm sure he's a good kid, but let's be real here.