Ask Iowa if they beat us the last time they won the Big 10.
How do think it will turn out in the B12?
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We want to win all of our games and Iowa is an in-state rival so we'd like to beat them. Nobody disagrees with that. We're disagreeing with Surly's opinion that the Iowa game has any bearing on how we do the rest of the year. The last few years are proof of how inaccurate that is.
I can understand why one might think this. But this is the one game for Iowa State that you really can't say it as fact.
Nobody is arguing that a win over Iowa this year wouldn't be huge. My previous comments were towards Surly that Iowa States can't still have a wildly successful season and still lose to Iowa, which is 100% false.
1. ISU
2-10. IDGAF
Iowa game only affects our seed in the CFP.
2-10. IDGAF
Iowa game only affects our seed in the CFP.
1) Texas
2) OU
3) ISU
4) TCU
5) Baylor
6) OSU
7-10) Who cares
And no, we don't have to beat Iowa. We want to beat Iowa, we should beat Iowa and we will beat Iowa but we don't have to beat Iowa.
2) OU
3) ISU
4) TCU
5) Baylor
6) OSU
7-10) Who cares
And no, we don't have to beat Iowa. We want to beat Iowa, we should beat Iowa and we will beat Iowa but we don't have to beat Iowa.
I know what the standings will be, before the season even starts, and no one here's close.
Baylor
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
TCU
Texas
Texas Tech
West Virginia
Baylor
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
TCU
Texas
Texas Tech
West Virginia
Seriously though, a case can be made for any of the preseason top 3 to win, or drop, and every team in the middle of the pack is capable of pulling an upset or two. The round robin is especially fun in a year like this when even the teams at the top have chinks in the armor.
The question is: is an OSU loss to ISU the catalyst in the demise of Gundy because how dare you lose to lowly Iowa State!
I don't believe the 'lowly Iowa State' card plays well anymore. In fact, people are going to be watching to see how ISU plays as the hunted this year.
SIAP
Pat Forde from the top rope!
Minnesota, Iowa State and Missouri (2) will all be undefeated going into November. The first College Football Playoff rankings will be released on Nov. 5. Are you ready for the Gophers, Cyclones and Tigers to all be in the top 10, and perhaps even one or two of them in the top five? Because it says right here that’s going to happen, before reality arrives like a fence post swung by Buford Pusser the following Saturday.
Minnesota, with an abundance of returning experience, will be 8-0 after playing South Dakota State, at Fresno State, Georgia Southern, at Purdue, Illinois, Nebraska, at Rutgers and Maryland. Then comes a visit from Penn State that will draw a lot of attention.
Missouri will be 8-0 after playing at Wyoming, West Virginia, Southeast Missouri, South Carolina, Troy, Mississippi (all at home), at Vanderbilt and at Kentucky. The last of those games is no lock, since Mizzou has lost four straight to the Wildcats, but karma will circle back around after last year’s robbery in Columbia. The Tigers will then lose by four touchdowns at Georgia on Nov. 9.
Iowa State will be 8-0 after playing Northern Iowa, Iowa, Louisiana-Monroe, at Baylor, TCU, at West Virginia, at Texas Tech and Oklahoma State. Then comes a trip to Oklahoma. But you heard it here first: The Cyclones are going to the Big 12 championship game.
Pat Forde from the top rope!
Minnesota, Iowa State and Missouri (2) will all be undefeated going into November. The first College Football Playoff rankings will be released on Nov. 5. Are you ready for the Gophers, Cyclones and Tigers to all be in the top 10, and perhaps even one or two of them in the top five? Because it says right here that’s going to happen, before reality arrives like a fence post swung by Buford Pusser the following Saturday.
Minnesota, with an abundance of returning experience, will be 8-0 after playing South Dakota State, at Fresno State, Georgia Southern, at Purdue, Illinois, Nebraska, at Rutgers and Maryland. Then comes a visit from Penn State that will draw a lot of attention.
Missouri will be 8-0 after playing at Wyoming, West Virginia, Southeast Missouri, South Carolina, Troy, Mississippi (all at home), at Vanderbilt and at Kentucky. The last of those games is no lock, since Mizzou has lost four straight to the Wildcats, but karma will circle back around after last year’s robbery in Columbia. The Tigers will then lose by four touchdowns at Georgia on Nov. 9.
Iowa State will be 8-0 after playing Northern Iowa, Iowa, Louisiana-Monroe, at Baylor, TCU, at West Virginia, at Texas Tech and Oklahoma State. Then comes a trip to Oklahoma. But you heard it here first: The Cyclones are going to the Big 12 championship game.
SDSU is the number one ranked FCS school. I wouldn't be so sure Minnesota wins that one and Nebraska will beat them in MSP. Gopher coach is the most annoying in P5 football.
It's a no-brainer to pick ISU in the B12 championship game. We'll have to see how they handle Iowa though.
Agreed. Beat Iowa and I think Iowa State has a really good shot to make it that far. Lose to Iowa and I think Iowa State has a really good shot to make it that far.
The only thing that losing to Iowa could affect would be if ISU were to win the Big XII championship game (with another loss along the way in conference) there's NO F-ing way they would be picked as one of the 4 playoff teams - if they had also lost to Iowa.
I went thru each team's schedule a few weeks ago and came up with this. Probably a few details I'd change now, but I'm not going to revise it at this point.
Place-number includes tiebreakers — at least involving head-to-head level (overall regular season in parentheses)
1. Oklahoma 8-1 (10-2)
2. Texas 7-2 (9-3)
3. Iowa State 6-3 (9-3)
4. Oklahoma State 5-4 (7-5)
5. TCU 5-4 (7-5)
6. Baylor 4-5 (7-5)
7. Texas Tech 3-6 (5-7)
8. Kansas State 3-6 (5-7)
9. West Virginia 3-6 (5-7)
10. Kansas 1-8 (3-9)
Place-number includes tiebreakers — at least involving head-to-head level (overall regular season in parentheses)
1. Oklahoma 8-1 (10-2)
2. Texas 7-2 (9-3)
3. Iowa State 6-3 (9-3)
4. Oklahoma State 5-4 (7-5)
5. TCU 5-4 (7-5)
6. Baylor 4-5 (7-5)
7. Texas Tech 3-6 (5-7)
8. Kansas State 3-6 (5-7)
9. West Virginia 3-6 (5-7)
10. Kansas 1-8 (3-9)
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Narrative is overrated, especially within Bergstrom's walls. Winning against Iowa by one or losing to Iowa by one, it hardly makes a difference other than for the fan's, and maybe a bit of in-state recruiting. It's going to be a close, physical, gut-check game, and it almost never indicates the true talent of either team, besides showing that neither has blue blood overall talent. See Ferentz's record against McCarney and Chizik. It would be special for the fans and building our national profile if it's on Gameday, (I'd rather have UT so that Iowa fans don't trash Ames more than they already do) but I don't think it makes a great deal of difference on our conference record. Even if we beat Iowa by 14+, UT and OU should be the favorites if they live up to their billing.
The standings are within reason, but I'm curious which terrible non-conference game you have Baylor losing. Also OSU falls at OSU? Possible with a young QB, sure. What non-con does OU lose? Fightin' Chip Kellys?
