Home Depot/Menards Lawsuit

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Clark

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I didn't know a 4x4 wasn't actually 4x4, but I don't deal much in construction products either
 

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I didn't know a 4x4 wasn't actually 4x4, but I don't deal much in construction products either

Here is the extent of my knowledge on 4x4's (non-automotive category).

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Any idiot that works with wood realizes that 2 X 4s and 4 X 4s are nominal size dimensional construction lumber. I don't know of anywhere to buy construction lumber that is actually a 4" X 4". Funny they are not suing Lowes' too.

Yeah, and I'm sure the terminology has developed as the common shorthand, as who is going to prefer to say I need a 3 1/2" x 3 1/2"?
 

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Any idiot that works with wood realizes that 2 X 4s and 4 X 4s are nominal size dimensional construction lumber. I don't know of anywhere to buy construction lumber that is actually a 4" X 4". Funny they are not suing Lowes' too.

I'm guessing that Lowes has a sign posted stating that the dimensions are different than the posted size?
 

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Yeah, pretty much all lumber that you buy anywhere is that way, so I see this as highly frivolous, and it should be thrown out.

One of my buddies is a gas buyer with BP, formerly with 7-11. He had to be deposed and was ultimately a witness in a trial related to the fuel sellers incorrectly charging consumers because you don't actually receive as much gasoline in warmer temps as you do in colder temps! This went all the way to trial, and is far more frivolous than nominal wood sizes.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/economy/article24727327.html
 

AgronAlum

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Wood is cut to dimension wet. It is then dried causing it to shrink. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Every plan out there calling for dimensional lumber like this is not calling for exact size.
 
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ArgentCy

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First, when I saw the thread title I was sure they were suing each other. Menards Hates Home Depot.

Second, this is the dumbest lawsuit I've seen in awhile and those lawyers should be disbarred. Or at least another strong indication we need loser pays. They should do that pro-bono if they actually believe they have a case.
 
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SCyclone

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Many things in our industry are "incorrectly labeled"....plywood, for instance. 1/2" plywood may be as thin as 15/32" (and generally is), owing to less-than-perfect ways of manufacture. Wood shrinks as it dries, although not to the point where we have to allow for 1/2" difference.

As other posters have stated, in the business everyone is aware of this. The emergence of DIY stores pretty much ensured that things like this would happen. It's somewhat similar to buying a TV from Traviss and one from WalMart, and assuming that they are exactly the same.

To quote John Ruskin - "There is hardly anything a man cannot make a little cheaper, and sell for less money - and those people for whom price is the only objection are this man's lawful prey".
 
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