Greg McDermott on KXNO today at

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  1. cybsball20

    cybsball20 Well-Known Member

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    actually if he is guarding the best player I would like him to deny the ball so he doesn't get the ball in the first place. I am not saying I am smarter than McDermott, but I don't agree with the philosophy of letting a wing catch the ball uncontested.
     
  2. mwitt

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    I thought you were complaining that he doesn't sag off when the ball is on the other side of the court?
     
  3. snowcraig2.0

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    It's called backtracking. It's fun to watch isn't it?
     
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    I guess I'll have to disagree with that statement. In my experience, it's easier to make shots against slack defense than it is to make shots in a game where 1) someone is hawking you defense, and 2) you have to expend a ton of energy guarding your guy on the other end. Maybe SH is in a slump, or maybe he's just not able to make shots against tough D. Time will tell...

    I'm curious as to who guards SH in practice.
     
  5. cybsball20

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    If you are between your man and the ball you can deny AND help. It's kind of a funny thing, also the defensive philosophy for Mike Krzyewski, Bob Knight, Lon Krueger...
     
  6. Clone_12

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    It is funny...message board poster says he's one of the worst off the ball defenders on the team. McDermott says he is the best overall defender besides Clark...Keep in mind out of those coaches you listed as your example-Bobby Knight thinks VERY highly of McDermott as a coach. He is the only one out of the three I can speak for, but if we're gonna throw out examples. Also, many, many, many coaches and experts of high esteem speak very highly of Greg's basketball IQ and coaching abilities. I'm sorry, but Greg McDermott knows more about defense than you...by a wide, wide margin.
     
  7. Clone_12

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    Also ask Lickliter (national coach of the year) what he thinks of Greg's defensive philosiphy...McDermott didn't build a winner at UNI by dropping 85 a game on teams, he did it by focusing primarily on defense. This is one of the dumber debates I've seen on here.
     
  8. cybsball20

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    The reason I through out those three is because I went to Duke and Florida basketball camps every year growing up and my high school coach played for Knight with Coach K and taught the same system as Knight.
     
  9. Clone_12

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    Different coaches have different systems...different systems work if executed properly-and McDermott knows FAR more about playing defense at the D1 level than you or me....so I'll take his word on it. Floyd, Eustachy, and McDermott all use different defensive strategies, but all three are very highly thought of across the nation from an X's and O's standpoint.
     
  10. Wesley

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    Sean might have developed his defensive skills while playing against brother Adam. He must have learned how to avoid fouling Adam.
     
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    Anyone thinking they are smarter then our coach? I'll give that a big thumbs down..

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  12. clone52

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    Grew up a cyclone fan, but when I was little my parents did make make me watch Iowa games and learn the Iowa fight song. Back in the 80's, ISU games weren't on very much where we were and Iowa was always on. I still haven't forgiven them for making me cheer on the Hawks.

    (They were ISU season BB ticket holders, so they aren't all bad.
     
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    LOL, well why didn't you just say that in the first place!!! If I had known you went to the Duke and Florida basketball camps growing up then I NEVER would have doubted your opinions.

    I bow to your superior basketball intelligence... Hey, by the way where are you coaching at these days???
     
  14. clone52

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    I'm related to Boyd. Give him a call, he fixed my crappy Marion water.
     
  15. clone52

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    Give McDermott a call about defensive philosophies. I'm sure he hasn't learned this stuff.
     
  16. Wesley

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    I would worry more about the offense. Really the offense is inept and the defense is pretty good.
     
  17. clone52

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    Defense is a team thing. I'm firmly on the side of supporting Haluska's defense and I'll trust that he's doing what GMAC wants. I'll address a couple things here.

    If GMAC thinks Sean is the best besides Clark, then he's probably guarding the best offensive player. Its quite possible that he doesn't want to have Sean play much help defense as it will open up a guy that can hurt us more.

    As for denying the passing lanes, its a great thing as long as you have the skills to do it and the rest of your team is good on help defense. If your help defense is weak and you are guarding a quicker player, the other team will burn you on the back door too much. Maybe Brackins can help on the backdoor, but our other guards are slow on the rotation to cover Brackins' man. Maybe Sean has to protect against having new players learning team defense. If the other players haven't figured things out yet, then everyone has to compensate and maybe thats why Haluska isn't doing the things all our message board experts are demanding.

    Maybe Sean isn't the best defender GMac has seen, but maybe, just maybe he does what GMac wants better than the other players. Garrett has all the ability to be a better defender that Sean, but maybe he just hasn't grasped the concepts that GMac is trying to teach him yet.

    All I know is this, when Sean is in there, good things seem to happen on the defensive end. He gets his hands on passes, causes problems for the dribbler and generally plays good defense.
     
  18. Incyte

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    It's hard to believe JP picked McD over someone with that type of experience.
     
  19. keepngoal

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    How about we all eat our young? that seems better than were this thread has went.... attacking other Cyclones about their opinions and thin defenses.....

    -keep
     
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    #100 Wesley, Dec 12, 2007
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    As long as Rashon is on the court I do not worry about defense. Even Drake scored only 79. When someone like Kansas hits 90, then I will worry. Hope Rashon takes more shots. He is a better shooter this year. He has a better mix of shots this year.
     

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